What are Guardians good for?

[Kaepora]

I'm trying to help a friend make an Eldar army, and I don't see any purpose to regular Guardians. They have terrible range and so-so stats. Am I missing something?

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

I guess they need support from other units, just like the rest of the Eldar Codex, but yes, on their own they suck.

[Kaepora]

Do they have any advantages, compared to Avengers? Avengers seem like a much better choice, especially with all those Farseer spells and if they are in a Serpent. My friend would likely have an offensive oriented army, so the weapons platform doesn't seem to useful.

[Ron]

They give you more bodies and can make ok holders with Avatar and Conceal, but yes, they are pretty bad compared to DAs.

It was nice to have a full squad be joined by Asurman and have them bladestorm, but I think that it was FAQed against that.

[Kaepora]

Well, my friend isn't looking at buy stuff like the Avatar yet. He wants to get some troops, see what they are good and bad at, and cover his weaknesses. Since it seems like Guardians are weak at everything, I'll suggest not buying any to him.

But he did but the battleforce, so are the ones he already has just going to be a point sink that's going to get shot to shreds, or can he use them with anything else?

[Durandal]

Um....give the DAs/walker cover saves?

[The_Peacemaker]

Um....give the DAs/walker cover saves?

I was gonna say Guardians are good for dying but in reality they are good for running off the board.
But I guess they can be a meat shield too.


Sometimes I take one unit 10-15models with a missile launcher to hold my home objective.

Otherwise you really need an avatar.

[Zawicki]

A warlock with conceal should help them with survivability a lot. There are good at holding the home objective. If you can actually get a full squad into range, they are actually quite devastating.

[Novasry]

2 words, Storm Guardians... backed up by a destructor Warlock and 2 flamers, and packed into a wave serpant, these guys will fry a squad and then mop up in combat

[k_orr]

A warlock with conceal should help them with survivability a lot. There are good at holding the home objective. If you can actually get a full squad into range, they are actually quite devastating.

A full squad of guardians is as devistating as 10 dire avengers with blade storm. Only it costs more, has less range, cant cruz along in the safety of a wave serpent and is totaly screwed if anyone with a flamer does so much as look at them. They are also horrible in combat and are never going to get to shoot at anything without a) suffering alot of casualties first and b) getting charged immediatly after.

They are cheap and with embolden have decent leadership. They can form a barrier between your enemy and your real units.

[theoutsyder83]

They're a cheap troop choice if you want to skimp on troops and focus on elites.

Their heavy weapon can be useful.

They sit on objectives.

They can screen a wraithlord from getting assaulted and prevent wraithsight bullcrap too if you add a warlock.

In my experience, they're usually just a heavy weapon that your opponent won't bother killing for several turns (unless they're on an objective), which means you get quite a few shots off before they start paying attention.

[Rahveel]

Well, my friend isn't looking at buy stuff like the Avatar yet. He wants to get some troops, see what they are good and bad at, and cover his weaknesses. Since it seems like Guardians are weak at everything, I'll suggest not buying any to him.

But he did but the battleforce, so are the ones he already has just going to be a point sink that's going to get shot to shreds, or can he use them with anything else?

if you wanted, you could let him use them as extra DA's.

[valinor]

A warlock with conceal should help them with survivability a lot. There are good at holding the home objective. If you can actually get a full squad into range, they are actually quite devastating.

This is a bad advice. :smt005

The question you should be asking your friend is what type of an eldar army he wants to play? Be it Mechdar, Saim-Hann, Ghost Army at least one of these.

I know he'll run into the biggest problem everyone usually get into... Acceptable Mobility and Firepower.