Okay... So, this list has got me kinda creeped...

[Aeviaan]

This is the list of an ork buddy of mine that I will probably be facing in the next 1-2 months. I'm working towards getting 3 warwalkers and giving them double scatters, but I'm not sure what else to take. A fire prism, definitely. Wave Serpents with scatters and cannon... Probably some scorpions... But what else? Whats should I really focus my core on? Thanks.

Warboss with mega armor (shoota/power claw), cybork body, kombi-scorcha-shoota

Big Mek with 'eavy armor, shokk attack gun, ammo runt.



Troops:

30 ork boyz, slugga & choppa, Nob w/ armor, bosspole, and power claw

20 ork hard boyz: slugga, choppa, armor, bosspole, 2 big shootas, power claw

20 ork shoota boyz, nob with bosspole and big choppa and armor, 2 big shootas

10 ork shoota boyz, 1 big shoota

12-orks--Wartrukk, 1 nob with 'eavy armor, kombi-skorcha/shoota, bosspole

20 gretchin mob and 2 runt herders



Elite:

6 Tankbustas with 1 tankhammer, 2 bomb squigs



Heavy Support:



Deff Dread, with 2 CCW's and rokkit launcha and skorcha



Fast Attack:

20 Stormboyz, Nob with Armor, bosspole and power claw

20 Stormboyz, nob with armor, bosspole and 'uge choppa



-Aeviaan

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

I run full Mech, but what about you?

What I'd just focus fire a mob or two at a time and force them as much as possible to try and hit your vehicles, you can force the Tankbustas to shoot any tank you drive up closest so your War Walkers remain safe.

[Ron]

Go mech, move 12 inches a turn and laugh at that list's inability to take out vehicles.

[Tarion]

Go mech, move 12 inches a turn and laugh at that list's inability to take out vehicles.
Definitely my answer too. Argue all you like that Orks can handle Land Raiders, this list fails abysmally against MechDar.

Of course, if he adds a hell of a lot of Lootas, suddenly you've got issues.

[MalkThe2nd]

Bwahaha.

Lootas.

Everytime someone says Orks can't shoot. Lootas.

Think lots of transports are gonna save you? Lootas.

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Try me Malk, I have faced/tried (Remember I played Orks?) 45 Lootas before and they wept because they couldn't roll 5+ 4 times in a row.

Oh wait, that's not supposed to happen anyway! If it does happen I usually ask to use their dice!

Hm, they might take out 1 tank, remember we are AV 12.

Individual Loota mob rough stats vs. AV 12 :

15 shots - 3 Hits - Yeah...
30 - 6 Hits - One might do something, not a guaranteed kill as you need another 5+? and Cover.
45 - 9 - Better, 2 maybe 3 plinks and a Pen, again not guaranteed kill as you need another 5+? and Cover.

Times that by 8 in my 1500 Mech, you arent stopping me from coming across the table and shooting the Lootas down before they get me :P And then where's the rest of your army? Cowering in fear?

If you face Lootas, simply fly over to them and shoot them down, then everything else in the Ork army is stupefied :P

[Aeviaan]

I was thinking of going the mech rout. That will be a lot of work though- I'm an infantry type of guy. I think I'll postpone the match until I got a couple Warwalkers and some Wave Serpent, then have some fun. Are there any specific troops? I think dire avengers and Harlies would suit me best here...

But it's a tossup between Harlies jacking a transport, or giving some scorps their own Wave Serpent. Or I may just do both. :)

EDIT: Hmmm.... On a side note, what do you guys prefer to make Hordes cry? 3 Warwalkers with 2 Scats each or 2 EML's each?

[ericbtjr]

Don't overlook guardians against the hordes. Stormies with a Warlock, 2x flamers and Destuctor. Pop em in a Serpent and unleash flaming death! Hell, put EML's on the serpent and after all the flamy death you may have actually killed enough to make them roll leadership (instead of mob rules) and could potentially even pin them!

[Aeviaan]

Thats very true... I unfortunately don't have any storm guardians though...

Hmm.... I'm starting to like the idea of EML's on Warwalkers more and more... Expensive as hell, but all around, a great, longrange, dealer of death to MEQ or horde... hmm...

[Morr]

Simple to deal with i think, 3 wraithlords Eldrad(boo hiss) and a farseer with mind war, Pop off the power claws in the squads and he cant hurt the lords. That ties up 3 squads in combat, 2 dire avenger units can take out two more and a few wave serpents with scatter lasers and cannons to take out the trukk and damage some of the other units.