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rohin1204
5th December 2009, 16:25
revised army:

Captain + full plate armour + pistol + sword of justice + sigil of Sigmar = 99
Battle wizard + level 2 + ring of volans = 120
Battle wizard + level 2 + doomfire ring = 130

10 handgunners + marksmen + hochland long rifle = 105
10 handgunners + marksmen + repeater handgun = 100
20 spearmen + shields + full command = 140
10 huntsmen + marksmen = 103
8 knights + full command + banner of arcane warning = 238

great cannon = 100
5 outriders + outrider champion = 121
10 greatswords + full command = 130

Hellblaster volley gun = 110

1496

Making a defencive line to stand and shoot,
facing dark elves

rohin1204
7th December 2009, 16:39
any comments

Hiv0r
7th December 2009, 16:42
I was going to let more knowledgable people post.. All I can say is from a noobs point of view I like it. It looks well balanced, versitile and looks like it could take most commers.

Is your captain by himself or in a unit. By himself might he not be a bit vaunrable even if he's cheap?

rohin1204
7th December 2009, 19:21
definitely in either the spearmen or greatswords.

Smackhead
7th December 2009, 21:46
You may be lacking some dispell dice and scrolls, which will definately be needed if hes a magic heavy DE player.

Hiv0r
7th December 2009, 23:19
Good point against DE why not take a level 1 wizard with 2 dispel scrolls?

rohin1204
8th December 2009, 20:47
Alternative:

Captain + barded steed + lance + shield + full plate + holy relic = 123
Battle wizard + level 2 + dispell scroll + icon of magnus = 150

8 knights + full command + standard of arcane warding = 254
8 knights + full command + standard of arcane warding = 254
10 handgunners + marksmen + long rifle = 105
10 handgunners + marksmen + repeater handgun = 100

8 Knights of the inner circle + full command + standard of arcane warding = 278
cannon = 100
5 pistoliers + outrider + repeater pistol = 107

1471

Cames99
8th December 2009, 20:49
You can't take more than one magic standard that is the same can you?

*calls the WFB god Vivi*

Smackhead
8th December 2009, 21:22
Correct Cames. Each magic item can only be taken once, unless its specifically states you can take it again.

Sgt.Garhak
8th December 2009, 22:23
Drop the extra knights, the hand gunners will do more damage

Liam
8th December 2009, 22:38
I don't belive they would, knigts are ace against Dark Elves as they have a 1+ Save the Dark Elves are paying the points for the -1 Armour save on their Crossbows, the Knights are totally immune to this as it makes it a 2+ save instead and a 1 is still a failure. If I was to be making a list it'd go something like this ...

Warrior Priest - Good Armour Save
Lv2 Wizard - Scroll - Ring of Bound Spell
Lv2 Wizard - Ring of Bound Spell

10 Crossbows (the range is the important thing here)
10 Crossbows
20 Swordsmen - Full Command - 9 Swordsmen Detachement
20 Swordsmen - Full Command - 9 Swordsmen Detachement
5 Knights - Muscian
5 Knights - Muscian

Cannon
Mortar

SteamTank

Think that should just fit in underpoints (I think, not 100% sure) and should do fairly well against most Dark Elf Builds at that points level.

rohin1204
9th December 2009, 20:13
do u guys think a shooty army or a knight army though?

Cames99
9th December 2009, 20:27
I wouldn't recommend trying to outshoot a Dark Elf army so the knights may be the best option. Just dont forget those dispel scrolls and dice.

rohin1204
9th December 2009, 20:29
ok, i'm going to GW tommorow and i needed to know whether i needed more knights or not

Liam
9th December 2009, 22:01
Right, anymore crap from you clearly not reading posts trying to help and I'll give you a random warning for being a cock.

Now thats out of the way, play the army the way you want to. It's like saying "I wouldn't try to outshoot the elves" but the elves might not actually bring any shooting or magic to the table (see my 2250pt list in this forum for example). Knights are good and if you want to get serious at playing empire you'll need at least 10, if not 15/18 so picking some more up won't be a bad thing, just don't expect to use them everygame.