Arena of Death opens.

[Pox]

this post is quite long so is split into four sections: (and i would appreciate if you could sticky it Mozric, thanks 8) )

section 1 is the background story for this specific arena of death, i am only an ok writer but i hopefully did something that conveys the essence of arena of death within what was decided to be the most plausible of suggested scenarios.

section 2 - is the rules, as provided by Subzero- READ THIS.

section 3 - is the list of who is writing what, and who to contact to send in entries.

section 4 - how to submit an entry, as provided by Warlock Chris - READ THIS

section 5 - The Errata - is open to answer questions as they arise.

THIS WILL START IN TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY (Tue' 9th may) OR WHEN ALL THE CATEGORIES ARE FULL (16 participants)

Section 1 - The Background

Arena of Death - may 2007.

The walls around you shimmer with an iridescent glow, taunting your eyes with colours that just do not exist…should never exist! Instinctively you reach up to grasp your head as the questions “why” and “how” sluggishly sift into your consciousness. It is not long before you would regret knowing the answers to such questions, for a human-esque voice speaks into your mind. “Rejoice for you are the chosen of the God’s. Your whole life so far has been a testing ground leading you to this place, this time – it is your destiny. It shall be decided which of you has enough ambition and power to be worthy of our continued attention, from those that shall only hope for damnation. The rules of this place are old, much older then the years of my youngest sibling – learn them, sear them into your very being, for you as are we are bound by them.” The voice wrenches from your mind with such force that you fall to your knees, gasping for air. Weakly you dare once more to look around you, and find the walls now transparent, allowing a view of other rooms; other creatures. Such horrific diversity: abominations of reality caged next to the most fragile and beauteous forms. Some rage against the walls, hurling themselves into a frenzy; some sit in sullen resignation, whilst others have given themselves over to prayer. Your hands clutch even tighter upon your head, Madness this is all madness, why is this happening? How is this happening? You are not a dark follower of the chaos gods, you do not belong here, this doesn’t make sense. Your cascading thoughts are interrupted as a slick and unmistakable moisture passes your lips. Tentatively you remove your hands from your head, shaking with fear as you observe the blood still dripping from every finger. It is then you start to hear them, (had they always been there?) shrieking voices. You focus, the walls yes the walls they speak… no wait it is not the walls itself, but small rippling faces, bubbling within its surface. Their seems to be a tune, but it escapes recognition, all you can hear are the words, soft and delicate – you strain yourself to hear and wish you had not. “maaaay the emperooor proooteeecct ussss.” the faces grin with malicious glee and more faces appear until the walls seems to be alive, the voices forming an unholy cacophony relentlessly burying into your mind and soul. In desperation you lunge at the nearest wall, your sword merely glancing off its mirrored surface. This close there is no mistake, you recognise some of the faces before you, you know them, when… when they where alive, they had names. You slide down to the floor, this doesn’t make sense, you where a highly decorated Tallarn officer – these, these where your men. Time slows, you can hear the racing of your heart, feel the passing of blood through your veins, even as the continued cacophony of pleas for salvation still echo. You see your right hand tighten upon your sword hilt as you thrust the blade towards your heart, the grinning faces reflected of its polished surface. With the impact time rushes back in, you scream as tender flesh is torn open. The faces all freeze, staring at you with intent eyes, speaking with one voice “YOU BROKE THE RULES! THE CRIMSON CYCLOPS WILL BE MOST PLEASED.” You look down at yourself, the sword embedded deeply, yet there is no blood, your hands they, they are clean, desperately you paw at your head but there is no blood. The faces mock you, even as you smash your fists against the walls seeking an escape from this hell.

Section 2 - The Rules

Their are three categories, light weight, middle weight and heavy weight. you man enter only one candidate per category.

These rules where originally designed by Subzero:


Ruleses for Leightweight
1. Characters must be 1 wound characters (e.g. Techpriest, Veteran Sergeant, Exarch, Repentia Mistress). The exceptions to this rule are: Ork Nobz and Mutant Bosses.

2. Rules must be from the most recent codex of that race, or Chapter Approved (Feral Orks, Kroot Mercs, Deathwatch etc). Space Marines may have Traits, Guard may have Doctrines (divide the cost by 10 and round up, so 2 for Carapace Armour, 1 for Alien Fighters etc), Chaos Marines use the smaller cost for Veteran Skills.

3. There is a maximum of 50pts. No negotiations, as in some cases even a single pt or 2 over the limit is crucial to some horrific characters.

4. No ap 1 or 2 weapons may be chosen, as these invariably turn the gladiatorial game into a shootout.

5. No armour values (I'm not sure if there are any vehicular unit leaders, but that's there just in case).

6. All wargear restrictions apply, so there are to be no Inquisitorial Stormtroopers with Null Rods and Digital Weapons, no Mutants with more than 1 Mutation, no sets of two two handed weapons.

7. No squads or retinues may be taken, this includes Followers*.

8. No 2+ saves may be taken, either armour or invulnerable.

And verily the next weight shall be:

Middleweight
1. Characters may have up to 3 wounds, but must be chosen from the HQ section, and they must be allowed to choose wargear from the armoury (though they do not have to take any).

2. Rules must be from the most recent codex of that race, or Chapter Approved (Feral Orks, Kroot Mercs, Deathwatch etc). Space Marines may have Traits and Guard may have Doctrines (use the full cost for a unit). Chaos Space Marines use the larger cost for Veteran Skills.

3. There is a maximum of 150pts, no negotiation.

4. No armour values (Space Wolf Venerable Dreadnoughts etc).

5. All wargear restrictions apply, so there are to be no Canonesses with Digital Weapons, no sets of two two handed weapons etc.

6. No squads or retinues may be taken, this includes Followers* (in the case of Officers, remove 24pts from the cost of the Officer).

Aaaand finally:

Heavyweight
1. Characters may have any number of wounds, but must be chosen from the HQ section, and they must be allowed to choose wargear from the armoury (though they do not have to take any). Vehicular HQs ignore the armoury rule and instead must be capable of taking vehicle upgrades (though they do not have to).

2. Rules must be from the most recent codex of that race, or Chapter Approved (Feral Orks, Kroot Mercs, Deathwatch etc). Space Marines may have Traits and Guard may have Doctrines (use the full cost for a unit). Chaos Space Marines use the larger cost for Veteran Skills.

3. There is a maximum of 200pts, no negotiation.

4. You may also select vehicular HQs.

5. All wargear restrictions apply, so there are to be no Canonesses with Digital Weapons, no sets of two two handed weapons etc.

6. No squads or retinues may be taken, this includes Followers* (in the case of Officers, remove 24pts from the cost of the Officer).

*Followers
Space Marine Familiar
Fenrisian Wolves
Chaos Space Marine Familiar
Chaos Spawn
Thrall Wizard
Chaos Hound
Gun Drone
Shield Drone
Ammo Runt
Grot Oiler
Grot Orderly
Grot Styboy
Attack Squig
Squighound
Kroot Hound
IG/SM Gun Servitor
IG/SM Combat Servitor
IG/SM Technical Servitor
BT CenoByte Servitors
Hunting Beasts (Creature Feature)


Bolded followers still give their bonuses.


Extra Things to be Aware Of
1. Orks test for the WAAAGH! on their Ld, and WAAAGH! Banners can still change the result.

2. Sisters of Battle test for Faith on their Ld as well. Regardless of the requirements to gain the bonus (e.g. roll over/under number of models etc), they must simply pass a Ld test.

3. All entries are Fearless.

4. Space Marines may use a single Cursed Founding bonus instead of traits. In the same vein, you may use any Cursed Founding special units or characters for the Arenas.

5. Just to make it perfectly clear, Psykers are allowed in events other than the Psyker Arena.

6. You can create entrants from multiple codexes, you aren't restricted to a single race. You can make a Lightweight Possessed Aspiring Champion from Codex: CSM, a Psyker using the Sanctioned Psyker in Codex: IG and a Super-Heavyweight in the form of a Hive Tyrant from Codex: Tyranids if you want to.

7. You can enter in as many events as you want.

8. Creature Feature may not be used.

9. Pistols, Heavy Weapons and Assault weapons fire at maximum range, Rapid Fire weapons Rapid Fire and thus get 2 shots. Heavy and Rapid Fire weapons will always fire if the unit or character has them, but I will only rapid Rapid Fire Pistol weapons if you specifically state that you want me to.

10. Both units/characters count as having charged in the first round of combat.

11. Just to get this out of the way now, all characters will be pmed to the writer, and pm which does not contain all the rules required for the writer will be ignored, meaning the character will be ignored. No pleading.


Section 3 - who is doing what.

Lightweight - primary writer = Warlock Chris (send him your PM submissions) secondary writer = dreadknot10

Middleweight - primary writer = ]['Ritha][ (send him your PM submissions) secondary writer = psychodelic lictor

Heavyweight - primary writer = Pox (send me your PM submissions - if this is not ok, PM and i will swap places with you.) secondary writer = ywisepapasmurf.

The main writer is the one, that your send your submissions too, (please double check the rules, and the errata BEFORE submitting.) the secondary writer is there to help with the writing load/dice rolling, to keep this going at a reasonable pace, and also means that not all the pressure is on one person. no writer can enter a contender in the section they are rolling for.


just to simplify for you, submissions go to:
Lightweight = PM Warlock Chris
Middleweight = PM ]['Ritha][
Heavyweight - PM Pox

battle reports should be done in this format:

challenge report = (heavyweight, middleweight or lightweight
name VS name
- story
- quick summary of events.

Section 4 - How to submit an entry

This is the Warlock Chris standard template for competitor admissions: please adhere to it, as it makes everything much more organised and easier to handle:

Your model entry:
Your characters army:
Your characters unmodified statline:
Special rules that apply because of the model or army used: Explain to me what these special rules are. For example a Blood Angel would be subject to Blood Rage etc.
Universal Special rules that apply to your character:
Wargear/Biomorphs etc: Explain
Your characters modified statline: Due to any of the above.

Include a points cost next to everything your paying for.

Section 5 - The Errata


Are special characters allowed?

NO.


are harlequins available to use, i mean the old codex for them no the new ones in the eldar codex


No - the rules clearly state:
2. Rules must be from the [b]most recent codex of that race[/b anything that is was not carried over to the new version of the codex (great harliquin for example) can not be used.


can I use a regular rank and file bug for lightweight, they don't have sgt's or leaders or things like that.


yes that is acceptable due to the nids army structure having a distinct lack of squad leaders. They may only be given biomorphs that would normally be available to them though, up to the points limit.


can Black Templar characters make use of Vows?

Unless we can find any serious problems with it, consider this a YES.


Question! Are characters allowed to use the "Hit and Run" special rule if they have it?

No - because it breaks the typical flow of how the event should be proceeding - and potentially allowing more shooting then usual.

running away is against the rules, and as punishment you would be handed over to the Crimson Cyclops.


Tank shock is also done in the movement phase, but becuase it eliminates shooting, I'm assuming that it will be done basically as a charge, with the opponent being able to shoot and charge the tank as well. Am I correct?

Correct.


So Blood Rage will be useless even if it is used?


Correct, blood rage (or fleet of foot) wil not confer any bonus's in the Arena. but blood rage can defer the penalty of not being able to shoot if it occurs.


If player 1 has a weapon with 48" range and player 2 has one with 12" range, does Player 1 shoot first and score his hits or misses before player 2 shoots.

NO - all shooting happens simultaneously, heavy weapons, pistols, and assualt weapons fire as if at full range so will confer any bonus' for being under X" from target (like melta guns for instance)


Does the DE crucible of malediction autokill psykers if it is succesfull?

YES, if they fail their LD test they are completly dead, other instances where you can die instantly include (but may not be limited too): Force weapons, rolling a triple on combat drugs and plague swords. Instant death by double your toughness will reduce you down to 1 wound however.



I'm just wondering whether "once per own turn" things happen every round of combat in AoD or once every second round of combat, like they do in a normal 40k battle.

effictively their is no "own turn" in the AoD, for example:

both players start on the charge in turn 1 and shoot simultaniously and can use whatever powers/drugs etc they have (so it is effectively BOTH players turns run simultaniously)

This concept then carries over into the assualt phase, so all "once per own turn" happen every round (to avoid the hell of the confusion over whose "turn" it is - also makes it a bit more fluid instead of the "i won't do this really cool thing cos it ain't my turn yet" syndrome.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THEN POST BELOW: DO NOT POST YOUR CONTENTER ON THIS THREAD! PM THE APPROPRIATE PERSON - AND REMEMBER MOST OF YOU ARE GONNA DIE, A GRUESOME AND HORRIBLE DEATH. (have a nice day.)

[cubez]

sorry but

and find the walls now opaque, allowing a view of other rooms;

opaque means cant see through, need to change that?

[Pox]

god's my mind has left me today! :oops:

[Ron]

So we just make up a charcater and his wargear and PM it to person in charge of that catagory?

[Pox]

that is indeed the gist of it - yes,

the person may not have the stats/know what the wargear does:

so PM them the stat line, and what everything does along with overall points cost.

and that's it - your in.

good luck.

[scythes]

Sent all 3 of mine, I'm ready for some killing, lets get it on!! :twisted:

[Doohicky]

Mine will be along later this evening.

One point though...

If any rollers/writers find that they are falling behind or it's just taking too much time, don't hesitate to let us know and we will find someone else to fill in.

We know how much time this can take up and people do have lives outside this forum (Bar Spuecutter maybe :wink: ) so don't worry about having to pull out at any point. You already have done a lot more than most of us and we really appreciate it.

And yes, this is an unaldulterated attempt to butter up the rollers to help my characters win! LOL

[Hurricane06]

Pox, do I get bonus points for using Nurgle Characters?

[Doohicky]

Pox, do I get bonus points for using Nurgle Characters?

In the last AoD I was unique in my Nurgle Characters.. now I shall simply be a sheep amongst the (smelly) flock. *sigh*

Still Gonna kick all your asses though!

Or maybe not, last game my possesed Nurgle Champion was beaten by a guardsman in CLOSE COMBAT!

[Psychedelic Lictor]

curious what would happen in the event of both characters killing each other simultaneously? simply count the champions as temporarily knocked out before revival and then a rematch?

[sammy2028]

Hmmm :D i think i may participate in this. Not too sure what character i could do though :( Perhaps something Tzeentch but he'd probably get anhilated since he would'nt be able to use many phsycic powers (or whatever :D)

meh i'll think on it.

[Pox]

Pox, do I get bonus points for using Nurgle Characters?

No. plain and simple. I'm being neutral in all regard to this.


One point though...

If any rollers/writers find that they are falling behind or it's just taking too much time, don't hesitate to let us know and we will find someone else to fill in.

We know how much time this can take up and people do have lives outside this forum (Bar Spuecutter maybe ) so don't worry about having to pull out at any point. You already have done a lot more than most of us and we really appreciate it.


indeed, thus why we have secondary writers for each section and me to help pick up some slack where it occures.


And yes, this is an unaldulterated attempt to butter up the rollers to help my characters win! LOL

:smt075 behave or your contentors will have to share a cell with that x-rated slanneshi daemon for some extreme daemonic powerfisting before combat even takes place.

[Subzero]

curious what would happen in the event of both characters killing each other simultaneously? simply count the champions as temporarily knocked out before revival and then a rematch?
A few points about working out the combat:

1) If one character would insta-kill the other due to having double or more Strength than the target's Toughness then the target is reduced to W1 (unless there's some kind of wargear which affects this).

2) If both characters kill each other at the same time (i.e. both kill each other in the shooting phase or strike with the same Initiative in combat and kill each other in the same phase) then simply roll that phase again and ignore the first set of results.

[Pox]

sub as always is a rules expert.

- just edited the main post please send all heavyweight entries to me NOT ywisepapasmurf

if it's already been sent - don't worry i'm sure he will PM it across to me.

[scythes]

If this works out maybe we could have a couple other events in the next AoD. Maybe a tank venue, MC competition, superheavies (200+), just a few ideas, but only if we get good participation and this works out. It seems like it will, seems like a good time.

I especially like it because being in Iraq I don't get to play 40k and a lot of sites that may contain fluff or things like that are blocked to me, so I can live my 40k life vicariously through this place. :D

[tone.tran]

There seems to be enough hype that it should be good :D Atleast I'm hoping. Can't wait.

[']['Ritha][]

;[ Paragraphs exist for a reason man. Makes it a LOT easyer to read stuff.


Such horrific diversity

That just makes me laugh. -Looks at his entrys so far- Yep. Laugh. Diversity? Laugh.

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Hey hey, it's not my fault all the 'Nid players are hitting up your division. ;)

[Subzero]

If this works out maybe we could have a couple other events in the next AoD. Maybe a tank venue, MC competition, superheavies (200+)
Tanks aren't particularly good for this because of their very fragile nature, Monstrous Creatures aren't in all of the armies* and most characters can't go above the range of 150-200. However, I did when I was running Arenas on another forum that a Psyker Arena and a Squad Arena work well. The Psyker Arena generally follows the Middleweight rules except the characters must be Psykers. The Squad Arena gives people 200pts to create a squad which for the most part had Lightweight limitations (but I think people could have weapons with Ap1 and 2 and they may have been able to have models with more than 1 Wound, but I'd have to check the rules I wrote for that to be sure). In both Arenas there's a large change to the order of phases; firstly there's a shooting phase, then there's an assault phase where both characters/units count as charging and after that the battle enters a continuous cycle of shooting and assault phases, but after the first assault phase neither character/unit counts as having charged.

I also had ideas for a Kill Team Arena which had most of the limitations of Kill Teams as written in the BGB but which allowed people to break a few mutable (and sometimes immutable) rules. The mechanics of each battle worked like the Psyker and Squad Arenas too.

*CSM: Daemon Princes and Greater Daemons
Nids: Tyrants and Carnifexes
Dark Eldar: the flying creature with the scythe blades, I can't remember the name (it was a Heavy Support option)
Eldar: Avatar
Necrons: Tomb Spyders

IG, SM, WH, DH, Orks and Tau don't have any.

[tone.tran]

Haha Maybe I should change mine than...would you accept a change Ritha? I was thining of using a Cannoness which I doubt will be as effective as my last entry, but I'm sure would be more fun. If your accepting changes Ritha tell me.

[Drazhar2]

Cool, I might make thing!

[tone.tran]

How does making choices work? Things such as which acts of faith would be used and which weapons on multiweaponed characters?

[Psychedelic Lictor]

why not simply tell the person you're mailing your entry to what preference you have if there is such a problem?

[tone.tran]

It could be a bit more complicated. Such as when to use what. I'm assuming most people would have in mind not to just use weapon x over y. Different situations require different courses of action. You may want to use a power fist usually, but if your just gonna get whooped before striking back when you know normal attacks will do the trick, not using it may be the better course of action. Of course these situations are a bit tougher to pre determine without the actual choice being an active part such as while playing the game you can make choices but you don't in this case. Do you rely on the person rolling to make these decisions for you? I honestly have no problem with any of those rolling for me to choose for me because I know they would choose the right thing, but I can't speak for everyone.

[']['Ritha][]

I'll accept changed up untill the last day. <3



For Acts of Faith, I fill use whatever is best at the time. Meaning this:

If useing the +2 init Act of Faith will make you striek first, and in all reasonability you would kill them if you did (Like, you've already hurt them), I'll use it.

But, if not, I'll use the armor becomes invunerable. Which, in most cases, will mean your SoB is now a 2+ invunerable happy chick.

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Ya, and I'll probably change mine too if you still lack variety after a week, Ritha.

[Ron]

I submitted a lightwight entry. Hopfully its legal.... After I get a Chaos Codex I might submit to the others.

[}khornatewoodelf{]

Just submitted my lightweight and middleweight entries, hoping they might do some good. Not bothering with the heavyweight. I'm not very fond of giant demon princes, dark eldar lords(or whatever they are), and grey knight masters. :roll:

[Drazhar2]

For some reason I cant send PMs to any of the middleweight classes authors. :(

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Well I re-entered my Middleweight, even though it began as a Broodlord with everyone else, it's now something else.

And I entered my Lightweight very early, I hope no one else took my idea. XD

[Psychedelic Lictor]

For some reason I cant send PMs to any of the middleweight classes authors. :(

is there anything wrong with the pm system? i don't think my admission to warlock chris has got through or another to ritha saying i can lend a hand whenever :?

[Pox]

is there anything wrong with the pm system? i don't think my admission to warlock chris has got through or another to ritha saying i can lend a hand whenever

Their inbox might be full, esp if they are playing the mafia game - in which case they might need to free up some room. If not then i dunno.

EDIT - i just Pm'ed the both of them without any issue, so give it another go if your unsure.


it began as a Broodlord with everyone else, it's now something else.


:lol: that is probably what i would have entered!


;[ Paragraphs exist for a reason man. Makes it a LOT easyer to read stuff.


sorry, i had it in a word document, and simply copied and pasted it straight without thinking about it. I also thought it was going to be a bit shorter then it turned out.


-Looks at his entrys so far- Yep. Laugh. Diversity? Laugh.

:smt046 - weeeel i was being optimistic! figuring people might enter things that are fun with a chance of winning from their favourtite armies rather then simply design something to win straight out - perhaps a little too optimistic of me then!

just opened the heavy weight list entries so far :smt043 seems to be the same story here! complete lack of diversity. Oh well will make battle reports less- er heroic.

CONGRATULATIONS TO FrAnKtHeFrEaK for an original entry.

if you want to give your contenders names that would also be very helpfull for those writing these battle reports up. (No need if you submit a nid entry)

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Oh come on that's easy, naming 'Nids is from what the locals call 'em. For example. Guard call Genestealers Leeches:

My Broodlord was called "The Medusa Atrocity" ;)

[Pox]

My Broodlord was called "The Medusa Atrocity"

My Broodlord would have been called "Mr Snuggles" :lol:

well if people want to submit appropriate names for there nids then they can - i certainly won't stop them - any of the common names in the nid codex will do - if your stuck. (so a genestealer could be called (place of origin/discovery) - stealer, scuttler, sewerstalker, clawfiend, ghost or leech.)

eg - Ymgarl stealer.

on a side note - silly names like "Mr Snuggles" will prob be rejected by the writers.

[Rifleman Lizard]

I have recieved lots of PM's today. My inbox was full and some of you may not have been able to submit your entry. I have deleted some of my older PMs. You can now send them to me.
I have recived the following. Take notice because I'm only gonna say things once. The following have sent me submissions.

Scythes
Doohicky
Psychedelic Lictor
Drazhar2
}khornatewoodelf{
yWizePapaSmurfy
foamy666
Ron

Some of you have sent more than one PM, haven't given me a total or even an upgrades cost. A few have given me unmodified statlines and the others modified statlines etc etc. Due to them being so fragmented and/or disorderly I ask that you all use this template when sending OR resending me entries.

Your model entry:
Your characters army:
Your characters unmodified statline:
Special rules that apply because of the model or army used: Explain to me what these special rules are. For example a Blood Angel would be subject to Blood Rage etc.
Universal Special rules that apply to your character:
Wargear/Biomorphs etc: Explain
Your characters modified statline: Due to any of the above.

Include a points cost next to everything your paying for.

Those who have already sent me an entry should resend them using the above template. Sorry but things are really messy at present.

I will do my best for both participating characters in the same duel but if you like PM me your preferred actions and the conditions of using them (Shooting pistols twice. To powerfist or not to powerfist.)

[dreadknot10]

awesome, glad i could be a substitute writer, i send in my characters

[']['Ritha][]

If you are having trouble PMing me, its becasue you arn't clicknig the PM button down v-- there. You are failign to spell my name right. ']['Ritha][ Thats ' ] [ ' and ] [ respectivly.

[Rifleman Lizard]

I'm sure I can take the load, dread but if you want to write a few then let me know and I'll send you some results over.

[dreadknot10]

not unless you dont want to chris, say you dont want to do one, then im always here

[tone.tran]

Allright, All entries officially in and I'm ready to rumble...Gotta wait two more weeks :(

[Mozric]

Question! Are characters allowed to use the "Hit and Run" special rule if they have it?

[Rifleman Lizard]

My thoughts exactly. I'd have thought they'd just duke it out until one combatant died.
I think Hit and Run could easily be exploited in this.

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

I hope not *imagines Shining Spear Exarch ripping shreds*

[Pox]

Question! Are characters allowed to use the "Hit and Run" special rule if they have it?

No - because it breaks the typical flow of how the event should be proceeding - and potentially allowing more shooting then usual.

running away is against the rules, and as punishment you would be handed over to the Crimson Cyclops.

hope that is cleared up. (will add that question to the Errata section)

and thanks for stickying it.

[Rifleman Lizard]

What about Blood Rage? At the start of turn moving six inches towards the enemy, thus entering CC before any shooting?

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Ooh...Now that is a nice idea, commendations to whoever entered something like that against me. :lol:

However, you must stop at least 1" away from an enemy unless you are in assault with them, I don't think Blood Rage will automatically take you into assault.

[Pox]

What about Blood Rage? At the start of turn moving six inches towards the enemy, thus entering CC before any shooting?

tempted to say no - on the same reasoning that it disrupts the normal flow of events.

but willing to hear views on it - will discuss it with the other writers and come to a conclusion.

[Andon]

Tank shock is also done in the movement phase, but becuase it eliminates shooting, I'm assuming that it will be done basically as a charge, with the opponent being able to shoot and charge the tank as well. Am I correct?

[Rifleman Lizard]

So Blood Rage will be useless even if it is used?

[Pox]

Tank shock is also done in the movement phase, but becuase it eliminates shooting, I'm assuming that it will be done basically as a charge, with the opponent being able to shoot and charge the tank as well. Am I correct?

correct.


So Blood Rage will be useless even if it is used?

still thinking this one over but ering more towards not giving anyone a bonus for it. (as it doesn't matter how fast you move, both of you are charging towards each other.)

i will PM it around though for a general consensus.

[tone.tran]

That would really suck for characters built to shoot.

[Andon]

Which is why people shouldn't make them, unless it is something that's almost garunteed to instakill

[Rifleman Lizard]

Or if it's in the lightweight arena.

[Andon]

Which just means instakill is making a single wound.

[tone.tran]

My view would be that even if a guy is rushing at you, you can still pick up your gun and take a shot off. It's not like your gonna be put in an arena not ready to fight. But alas it is up to those moderating the Arena to decide.

[Andon]

Each character gets to shoot, then each character gets to assault. It's all simeo, I think.

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Quoting myself:



However, you must stop at least 1" away from an enemy unless you are in assault with them, I don't think Blood Rage will automatically take you into assault.

Then again, denying my ability to shoot would make my lightweight character half as effective...And this is by the BGB as well.

[tone.tran]

It would wreak havoc on mine :( I'm really putting all my eggs in one basket there.

Also, what happens if both characters die in the shooting phase? I believe, my interpretation to the assault phase was that you do it over again. Would there be a second shooting phase, or straight into combat?

[Pox]

So Blood Rage will be useless even if it is used?

ok - consensus reached, Blood Rage will not confer any bonus in the arena of death - sorry.


Also, what happens if both characters die in the shooting phase? I believe, my interpretation to the assault phase was that you do it over again. Would there be a second shooting phase, or straight into combat?

if both die in the shooting phase, (or in any particular phase) then that phase is re-rolled and the original results discarded. Until this doesn't happen.

[Drazhar2]

Oh ok, well thanks anyay. At least I was able to send a lightweight class fighter.

[Doohicky]

I would like to point out that I think my entries are different from most peoples!

But it would get eaten alive by a Broodlord (as would preety much everything apart from a double mind war Farseer)

[Psychedelic Lictor]

ap3 guns could make the light weight entry extremely short

[Doohicky]

Again, no gun in my lightweight entry except a bolt pistol. FIGHT!!!! This is the Arena of Death, NOT the O.K. Corral!

[Pox]

doohicky see you haven't entered the heavy weight, any particular reason?

their is still lots of great (and so far unused) charecters out their that would have a very good chance in this category. in fact pretty surprised out of the top 3 types i expected to see, i have only seen 1.

so far i have had 6 entries - meaning only 10 slots left, before i close my gates.

[Tarion'Maseth]

My 3 entries are in. I think I went against the common trend for my middleweight, my Heavy weight is what was expected (Although of different alignment to last time) and my Lightweight was through random flickings in the Eldar Codex.

Guys, if I messed anything up, sorry!

[Doohicky]

My heavyweight entry should be in later tonight. I only had time to get the first two done last night.

[sammy2028]

I'm not going to do a heavyweight myself jsut don't fancy it :) Done my middleweight and might have a go at a lightweight in a moment.

[scythes]

Beings how I only have a nids codex, and I'm in Iraq and have absolutely no access to any other dex, I have a reasonable excuse for my entries. But, I'd change at least one of my entries if someone could e-mail me the Kroot mercenary list faq page from GW, I can't go to the GW site, it's blocked here as being a game site, odd this one isn't though. Oh well, I'll do some diversity if someone could e-mail me some info for other armies... US_Marine1@hotmail.com. This is not meant to be a way to get free dex's, I only play SM and nids (once I build them), I just want to add some diversity.

[}khornatewoodelf{]

Bah, figuring i have nothing to lose and some time to kill, ill enter a heavyweight to add some variety(atleast i expect) to the competition.

[Pox]

well when doohicky drops his entry off to me, that will make 10 entries for the heavy weight comp,

meaning only 6 slots free, if you want to enter.

strangely no Tau have entered yet (he he he)

starting to have a really pleasing mixture, but could do with some more exeno/chaos if people want to play a wildcard.

though of course you can submit whatever you want (yes even nids)

hopefully the other primary writers will post an update up some time, stating how many free slots they still have.

-even if we do fill up all the slots early, i'm afraid heavyweight reporting will not start till the end of next week, due to me having to finish off a very important essay, ywisepapasmurf being quite busy and i don't want to give everything to Tyryt as that would be a bit unfair on him. (sorry guys.)

[Doohicky]

Okay my Nurgle Lord is in and ready to rock....

I expect there are quite a few Librarians and Grey Knights in the Heavyweight race. (None will be as heavy as Bulgar though :))

[Psychedelic Lictor]

would it be wrong to a throw a cheeky culexus assassin into the heavyweight arena n bank on getting a psyker every round? :lol:

[Pox]

would it be wrong to a throw a cheeky culexus assassin into the heavyweight arena n bank on getting a psyker every round?

i don't think assassins are allowed them being elite choices not HQ ones.

but saying that they would fit right in - ummm will ask around and see what others think on the matter.

umm send us the profile like a normal entry and will look over it, and let you know. May i assume it is an independant charecter.

[Tarion'Maseth]

:lol:

Nice idea... Sadly, if you did it against my character, they would eat you alive. In fact, my character in middleweight would too :p

[Doohicky]

would it be wrong to a throw a cheeky culexus assassin into the heavyweight arena n bank on getting a psyker every round? :lol:

Do assassins have access to the armoury. That's a pre-requisite for the AoD...

[Pox]

Do assassins have access to the armoury. That's a pre-requisite for the AoD...

indeed, but special consideration was given to the nids for the lightweight category. (due to complete lack of squad leaders.)

IF assassins are indeed independant charectors then i might allow it, because i can't think of any other army that has an independant charector that is not a HQ choice. apart from imperial guard techpriest enginseers - but without a servitor unit i doubt they will be that effective in middle weight let alone heavy weight.

i'll look at the stat line/rules and think about it.

[Doohicky]

DA Techmarine! They aren't even in the FOC anymore! :P

[Pox]

so it might also allow in techpriest enginseers and DA techmarines. i wouldn't rate them as the most world shattering entries (compared to the stuff that is being entered)

[Doohicky]

I think people should enter them. Just so I can fight against them for a bye! woot!

[Tyryt]

Quick Question... Inquisitorial followers have DRASTIC changes on their stats. While they may not be present for the battle, will they still confer their bonuses to the Inquisitor?

If yes, is a there a discount in their cost since the extra (guardsman) isn't there with them?

[Pox]

any followers that give attribute bonus' to the main charector (as in a space familiar for instance) or some other use (as in ammo runts) confer the bonus - but do not fight and can not take wounds in place of the main charector.

so yes Inquisitorial henchmen if they confer stat bonus' can be taken and confer the bonus per normal. (but cannot fight etc)

since an Inquisitor lord MUST take a retinue of between three and twelve Henchmen. he is in pretty much the same place as an imperial officer.

IF the points cost of the followers is NOT included in the price of the lord then all is fine - just pay for what you take and you don't need to take any retinue at all (your choice) of course none of the retinue can independatly fight.

IF the points cost of the followers is INCLUDED in the price of the lord then, take up to 3 henchmen as you wish - but if you wish to take less (or none), then for each henchmen you don't take reduce the overall points by 6 for a maximun reduction of -18. (the requisit minimun retinue)

hope that clears that one up.

[Pox]

double post - but here is my friday update:

This is the list of people who have entered the heavyweight competition so far. (in the process of building free coffins for all of you.)

1 - }khornatewoodelf{
2 - cubez
3 - Doohicky
4 - Tarion'Maseth
5 - foamy666
6 - Andon
7 - dreadknot10
8 - tone.tran
9 - FrAnKtHeFrEaK
10 - Scythes

So have 6 places remaining, till i stop taking in competitors.

still waiting for a suicidal Tau Shas'o to enter. and a couple of races have no representation at all yet. some of the Chaos gods also have no represention yet! even after they so generously decided to host the event.

[Mozric]

Dude, I was going to enter a Shas'O in heavyweight just for kicks, but since you can't use shield drones you can barely get them above 150pts, so I went middleweight instead.

I could enter an Ethereal :lol:

Might work out some evil chaos bastard, but I'm worried they'll already be very represented.

[Psychedelic Lictor]

im trying to work out how to make a rock solid canoness for variety but one large punch n she gets auto-killed bless her lil armoured socks, i refuse to give into making a librarian/daemon/tyrant/grandmaster....

[Pox]

Dude, I was going to enter a Shas'O in heavyweight just for kicks, but since you can't use shield drones you can barely get them above 150pts, so I went middleweight instead.

yeah i'm just coming to the conclusion that some races are not gonna have things that are in the 150-200 point rank: such as orks, tau, eldar, DE, imperial guard etc. seems heavy weight is a bit more restrictive. you do know since a Shas'o was 4 wounds it can't be taken in the middle weight catergory. (limit of 3 wounds)


I could enter an Ethereal

i can hear all the Tau players cry in despair now! as a precious etheral gets used as a plaything.


Might work out some evil chaos bastard, but I'm worried they'll already be very represented.

actually the imperiam is better represented at the moment - chaos still need a representative for Khorne and Tzeentch, and we have no greater daemons yet.


im trying to work out how to make a rock solid canoness for variety but one large punch n she gets auto-killed bless her lil armoured socks, i refuse to give into making a librarian/daemon/tyrant/grandmaster....

she can't be instakilled - it will take her down to 1 wound if double her T - tis the rules of the arena. so you decided not to enter an assassin then?

[Psychedelic Lictor]

it's tempting, it was just a reactionary thought of all the librarians and grandmasters being inevitably entered. something to make them a lil shakey about :wink: but in truth i'm not sure he'd be good enough at his job and besides, it's somewhat against the rules not being a HQ choice so all a bit shadey...but i might persue with the canoness, she won't stand a chance but all in the name of diversity! reckon there won't be another one in the class so she can hold the banner (albeit somewhat shortly in all likelihood) high and nobly as any self-respecting sob should.

[Pox]

originally i thought i would be a stand in writer for all three categories - but it seems i'm the permanant main writer for the heavy weight now. (which is going to be more then enough work, with real life things to do as well.)

- with this in mind would any one object if i entered contentors into the other sections? (which i am not writing for) obviously i won't enter in the heavy weight.

[Rifleman Lizard]

No. Feel free to enter the lightweight arena.
An update from me will come early hours tomorrow morning when I get up.
Basically the names of those I have complete characters for.

[Ron]

I just PMed a subscription to Ritha for the midwight. I sent u one for the light wight Warlock Chris. Did you get it? If you did is it legal?

[Treehugger]

Dude, I was going to enter a Shas'O in heavyweight just for kicks, but since you can't use shield drones you can barely get them above 150pts, so I went middleweight instead. .

Just entered Entrients for light and middleweights.

And yea Moz its too bad Tau really doesnt have much to offer the heavyweight, and you cant enter a Shas'o in the middleweight either since he has 4 wounds.

[']['Ritha][]

1 Pox
2 Treehugger
3 Ron
4 }khornatewoodelf{
5 cubez
6 Tarion'Maseth
7 sammy2028
8 Mozric
9 dreadknot10
10 tone.tran
11 yWizePapaSmurfy
12 Psychedelic Lictor
13 Doohicky
14 scythes
15 Gararion


I can only take ONE more entry! And note that I havent gone through all of these for rules yet. I've been busy as all hell.

[Pox]

and you cant enter a Shas'o in the middleweight either since he has 4 wounds

yea, or i would have entered a great unclean at a straight 150 points 8)

6 wounds, 4+INV thank you! but not to be. (trying to disguise a great unclean one as a "middle wieight" is perhaps a bit too cheesy)

ok i have had 1 new entry by TYRYT (who is no longer writing)
and expressed wishes to enter from both Mozric and Psychodelic Lictor.

which means i only have 3 slots left! (it's all going fast)

[cubez]

how many more people needed? for each?

[Pox]

don't know about light yet:

but only 1 more for middle and 3 more for heavy (assuming pscyodelic lictor and mosric both enter)

though writing for heavy will not start till the end of next week even if full, due to both me and ywisepapasmurf having some v.important real life stuff that takes priority.

[cubez]

like?
what ore important that imageny killn?
(sory v nosey?)

[Scrooge]

Just entered my wych succubus in light weight! good luck all!

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

lol, Good luck Scroogie, missus 6+ armor save vs. all shooting.

[']['Ritha][]

MIDDLE WEIGHT IS FULL! No more entrys. Got it?

#16 is Hurricane06

[Andon]

*Is tempted to send in a Middleweight*

Nah... I think I'd rather not

[Scrooge]

But if I get in cc with u ur screwd mate.

[Tarion'Maseth]

But if I get in cc with u ur screwd mate.

Hehe, perhaps... I know Sneggy was considering that option. But I know that me and Smurf will tear you apart :P

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

He might have a Agonizer, in that case, a tie. If he reaches CC.

If you don't catch Tarion's drift, him and I ironically have the same entry.

[Tarion'Maseth]

He might have a Agonizer, in that case, a tie. If he reaches CC.

If you don't catch Tarion's drift, him and I ironically have the same entry.

Dude, there's almost no chance of him reaching combat :P Funnily enough, he's a character we do fantastically against :D

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Aye, I guess, 4 6's aren't likely. :lol:

[Pox]

i;m assuming he has an agoniser - in which case he only needs 4+

you lose an attack from your additional CCW - (if you have one)

and he has a 4+INV dodge save in CC. with the same I as your guys he might do ok. - bah even my entry has a chance of shooting him to shreds!

[Tarion'Maseth]

i;m assuming he has an agoniser - in which case he only needs 4+

you lose an attack from your additional CCW - (if you have one)

and he has a 4+INV dodge save in CC. with the same I as your guys he might do ok. - bah even my entry has a chance of shooting him to shreds!

Mine and Smurf's have more than a "chance". The odds favour us :lol:

[Pox]

when i was writing that i was thiking of broodlords then realised it was light weight so though about a regular stealer, then realised eh... what the hell he is gonna die!

[Scrooge]

Well now ive got almost a whole page of people saying how there going to shred me up. And I guess that your probably right. next time ill probably enter a genestealer with ec and rc. But ill hopefully get really lucky with my armour save roll! what are you guys entering by the way?

[Tarion'Maseth]

Well now ive got almost a whole page of people saying how there going to shred me up. And I guess that your probably right. next time ill probably enter a genestealer with ec and rc. But ill hopefully get really lucky with my armour save roll! what are you guys entering by the way?

Hey, don't worry... You should skin most of the entries alive! :) It's just a bad match up if you end up with either me or Smurf.

[Scrooge]

What are you using? or are you going to leave it as a surprise.

[Tarion'Maseth]

I'm going to wait till everyone's entered for Lightweight :wink:

Also, I don't want to give away Smurf's character, so I'll check he's OK with me revealing it.

[Scrooge]

Well, no matter what you have taken prepare to be beaten then captured and taken off to fight in yet another arena.

[sammy2028]

I still have no idea what to enter as my lightweight option... *sigh* might end up having to use a loyalist marines *grumbles*

[scythes]

I think my lightweight came out to 20 points, all maxed out, nothing else I could give him, I doubt he'll make it passed the first round but it owuld be interesting if he did.

[sammy2028]

hehe yeah guess it would be pretty interesting :)

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Actually, tone's entry is gonna murder I think, it's just so....wrong in how effective it is. :twisted:

You coulda done a Genestealer, Scythes. :P Only, if anyone could shoot, you'd find yourself in a doozy like Scrooge. But 4+ save is better than 6+ :lol:

I seriously think my Middleweight will take that tier, only DE Lords and Witch Hunters really stand a chance, but then they won't even murder me right away in assault. :D

Oh, that reminds me, one round of shooting, all the rest assault, right?

[Pox]

Oh, that reminds me, one round of shooting, all the rest assault, right?

correct.

though psycic powers that could be used in the shooting phase AND are allowed to be cast in CC take place before the next assault round truely begins. (This is rare, i can only think of 1 power that fits this bill)

[sammy2028]

Blerrgh i fully expect my middleweight to get thrashed. I only made him for a bit of orginality. Still not sure what to do on the lightweight front soooo..... might have to just grab the SM codex and do a rank and file seargent.

[Treehugger]

Oh, that reminds me, one round of shooting, all the rest assault, right?

correct.

though psycic powers that could be used in the shooting phase AND are allowed to be cast in CC take place before the next assault round truely begins. (This is rare, i can only think of 1 power that fits this bill)

I thought I had read it as one round of shooting, then an assault, then a round of shooting rinse and repeat?

[Tarion'Maseth]

Nope, once you assault, you're in assault :P

[Treehugger]

That kinda sucks. I would think the other way would give you a much better showing of overall strength instead of just being a melee fest. Oh well.

[Psychedelic Lictor]

well i've finally recovered from a hangover n entered my heavy weight...though i expect she's gunna get a trouncing. i'm more interested in how my light weight performs - she's banking rather heavily on going first in the assault though :)

[Andon]

I'm pretty sure everything is simo for the first round of assault.

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

I'm pretty sure everything is simo for the first round of assault.Huh? So DE Lords and their monstrous Initiative comes to naught?

[Pox]

just to clear some stuff up:


I'm pretty sure everything is simo for the first round of assault.

wrong - they both count as charging but strike in initiative order like normal.


That kinda sucks. I would think the other way would give you a much better showing of overall strength instead of just being a melee fest. Oh well.

what you gonna do? say sorry mr bloodthirster can you just back up a bit so i can shoot you some more :lol: no it is one round of shooting and then combat (with both counting as charging) then normal combat assuming they are both still alive.

The arena is not civalised, it is brutal and bloody and you are lucky we are letting you use guns at all.

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

cough cough *uneasy laugh again at Tone.Tran's lightweight entry.*cough cough

[Treehugger]

The arena is not civalised, it is brutal and bloody and you are lucky we are letting you use guns at all.
I wasnt complaining, just pointing out an opinion.

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Same here. I'm poking out Tone.Tran's logic is so awesome everyone else would wish they'd enter a entry as deviously simple as his. *cough cough*

[Rifleman Lizard]

The following people have submitted their lightweight entry:

Pox
Scrooge
Treehugger
Tyryt
Sneggy
Doohicky
}khornatewoodelf{
cubez
Drazhar2
Tarion
Psychedelic Lictor
foamy666
Hurricane06
Mozric
dreadknot10
yWizePapaSmurfy
tone.tran
Ron
scythes

Quite a few people but it isn't a problem for me. I've got a plan for writing it up and rolling it off to keep the lightweight arena updated as quickly as possible.
I've included those few people who have not resubmitted their entry to me. Which in the long run is not great problem as I'm a member of a gaming club and can get access to all of the codeci. It just would have saved me hassle if you'd done so. No matter.
Some of the entries are looking very crafty and others are looking very shaky. Whatever the stats the ultimate hand comes down to the fickle die gods.
Good luck to everyone.

[Pox]

shall we take it light weight is full then!

- actually looking at it, how is it going to work? you no longer have an even number (does someone get through to the next round without fighting?) ummm to avoid that problem you would need another 5 entries or to drop 3.

just need 2 more entries for heavy weight.


Some of the entries are looking very crafty and others are looking very shaky.

here's a toast for Pox's "shaky" yet fun candidate!

[Rifleman Lizard]

I'll say room for one more to make it a nice round 20.
That'll mean nobody gets lucky and goes through round one with a bi.

[Pox]

just edited my post, how does 20 work?

20 down to 10 down to 5 down to ? does a person automatically get through or is someone resurrected to fight?

16 - 8 - 4- 2- 1 = easy

not sure what the next best number is?

[Subzero]

Either kick out the last four entries (it may sound unfair but without a good number of entries there's no way to do the thing fairly, which will affect more people than just removing four entries) or, if you think you can write that much, wait for 32 entries.

[Pox]

he doesn't have 20 just yet - so it would be kick out the last 3 entrants.

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Well, crap.

There goes the neighborhood.

*whistles innocently as he barely escapes the execution of three entries.*

[Rifleman Lizard]

So 16 is the only realistic number? 32 isn't going to happen. It'd take too long and interest will fade. I also doubt there will be 32 people entering.

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Chris, did anyone else enter something like tone.tran's entry? Just because that idea was genius.

[Rifleman Lizard]

Sorry if I'm missing something but did TT tell you what his entry was? Some people have entered something similar.
I'm not sure if people would like me to reveal their entry at the moment.

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Ya, I guessed his via MSN and he admitted, after much given arguments for multiple shooting phases from him it was kinda easy after I realized it can indeed fit in that small of point value, and seeing as he only has Eldar on his record...I am thoroughly afraid of it.

Dont have to reveal just yet, I just chat mano a mano. To see if I have any like minded minds. :lol:

[Rifleman Lizard]

There are others you should be afraid of too.
I was also quite impressed with TT's entry. He went with the exact same entry I had ready before I volunteered to run this arena.

Another thing! How do I determine who fights who? Give everyone a number and roll a D20 twice to decide both combatants?

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

:lol: As random as possible I hope.

Well, I thought it was a thoroughly unique idea, seeing as he has little improvements on him anyway.

[Treehugger]

Determine who fights who by what would make the fights for my entery the best for me ;D hehe just kidding. I seriously doubt mine will do all that well, but it seemed like a fun idea.

You could always just write the names down and randomly pull them out of a hat.

[Scrooge]

pick the names out of a hat!

[tone.tran]

I'm glad there are some entries like mine Chris. I was feeling a bit bad after PapaSmurf and I had our talk. Nothing too extravagant as PapaSmurf seems to put it but just a quick read though the rules made it apparent. Though I really am happier with my Middle and Heavy. They won't win but I'm sure they'll be a fun read when Pox and Ritha get to write it out.

[Scrooge]

So no hints as to what this unstopble entry is? or will I have to find out the hard way? *puts on a stretchy white rubber glove*

[tone.tran]

Dunno how Chris and others would feel if I said mine, I honestly don't mind revealing my entry. I'll leave it up to Chris, since he is the one in charge, to tell my entry. I'm personally routing for PapaSmurf/Tarion's entry. Simply because game wise, I love that model so much more.

[Andon]

I only entered into the Heavyweight, and I think mine is going to be a surprise for everyone. It's far from unstoppable, but it is a bit unique

[Spam-Robot]

I can't send a PM to Ritha, it says the user does not exist...

[Tarion'Maseth]

You are aware his username isn't Ritha right?

Try this link: http://40kforums.com/privmsg.php?mode=post&u=526

[Treehugger]

Spam when you C&p from the name Pox wrote down remember that he forgot a ' at the very begining of all those symbols. I had trouble at first with that to ;D

[Andon]

it's actually ']['Ritha][

So there is two ' missing

[Treehugger]

Ahh didnt notice the second one. I found it eventually by doing a member search.

[scythes]

All you lightweight contenders out there had better beware of my 14 points of pain! He's gonna be a real menace in the arena! At the end he will come out on top and rule it all!! :twisted:

The sad part is I don't think I could buff him up any more than the 14 points he already is.

[Andon]

14 points? :lol:

[Tarion'Maseth]

14 points? :lol:

*prepares the mockery for whoever dies to it*

[Andon]

I would give Scythes a cookie if it managed to kill the most expensive person

[Rifleman Lizard]

Greetings, bloodbags.
Long hard day at work on this end but it's now my time off. Hoorah!
I'll roll off the numbers and start an introduction story for the lightweight arena on Monday!
:twisted:
Tone, you're free to discuss your entry if you'd like. It really is a good entry but remember, there are other opponents out there who are more than capable of besting him.

[Pox]

just out of interest which 3 members got their entries axed? as i fully expect i'm a casualty of mod death - ah such is the fickle way of the gods.

[dreadknot10]

i think my entry for lightweight will do very well, a good number of attacks, and a high initiative if im lucky enough

[Hurricane06]

just out of interest which 3 members got their entries axed? as i fully expect i'm a casualty of mod death - ah such is the fickle way of the gods.

I don't think any need to...there were 19, correct? Why not have a "play in" tournament for the last 4 entries to take the 16th spot, kinda like the play-in game in the NCAA Basketball tournament. I dunno, just a suggestion. Either way, I'm lookin forward to seeing how everything turns out.

[Pox]

I don't think any need to...there were 19, correct? Why not have a "play in" tournament for the last 4 entries to take the 16th spot, kinda like the play-in game in the NCAA Basketball tournament. I dunno, just a suggestion. Either way, I'm lookin forward to seeing how everything turns out.

ooh i like that idea - just because it means everyone who put some effort into making an entry at least gets 1 round of combat - but does give Warlock Cris some extra work, so will leave it up to his judgement.

EDIT - ONLY 2 SLOT's LEFT FOR HEAVY WEIGHT!

[Scrooge]

i bet im gonna get killed by the 14 point guy. As long as he has a decent gun.

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Tone, you're free to discuss your entry if you'd like. It really is a good entry but remember, there are other opponents out there who are more than capable of besting him.

Ya, of course, it's just, you know, um...

sacrificing killing power in exchange for ultra protection?

...Did that come out right?

[Spam-Robot]

My Lightweight entry will die from shooting before getting a chance to attack XD.

I'll just give it to you guys, its a Wych Succubus with an Agoniser and Plasma Nades, so if I get to attack, I go first with I 6 and 3 power weapon attacks.

[Pox]

Only 1 slot left for the heavy section

if you want to be unique then an entry from any of the below will do:

Tau
Eldar
Daemonhunters
Orks
Khorne (chaos space marine)
Greater Daemon.

[}khornatewoodelf{]

Watch, I'll be the first one to go against the wych, miss with my shooting, and get chopped in half knowing my luck.

But if i survive then your dead dead dead :twisted:

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

My Lightweight entry will die from shooting before getting a chance to attack XD.

I'll just give it to you guys, its a Wych Succubus with an Agoniser and Plasma Nades, so if I get to attack, I go first with I 6 and 3 power weapon attacks.

Heh, okay it's time. My lightweight entry. I'll hold off on my middleweight.

Warp Spider Exarch - 2 Death Spinners & Powerblades [49]

Same speed as you Spam, and same amount of PW attacks. BUT I also have 4 Strength 6 shots. :P

[dreadknot10]

ill say mine ork nob, I 6 if i waaaagh, and 4 attacks, on charge that is. i reduce your save to 4+ if better, and then ill shoot you, the shooting is the biggest threat there is :lol:

[Pox]

i will only reveal mine if it doesn't end up fighting. but warp spider exarch sounds EVIL! though i don't think it would kill my entry outright.

[FrAnKtHeFrEaK]

Once Heavyweight fills up I want to introduce my AoD character. I'm interested in seeing how he does, I'm not sure if I made the right choices on wargear or not...

[tone.tran]

Since PapaSmurf's entries out, I guess mine shall too.
I've got a Dark Reaper Exarch [49]. I'm pretty much screwed if the dice gods don't like me. I'm putting all my chips on two dice.

[Tarion'Maseth]

Hmm... I'm surprised by there being no Daemonhunters. Does help me out though :P

[Psychedelic Lictor]

lol oh dear....i think my poor banshee exarch is going to get blown away!

still if she makes it in, i'm banking on initiative 10, strength 5 power weapon attacks for skinning the cat

[Pox]

yeah i was surprised about that as well - but i'm still open for another entry so perhaps you won't be dissapointed.

- i think you will be surprised about who you end up fighting Tarion (not gonna ruin the surprise yet though.)

[Doohicky]

Okay.. My lightweight entry...

Nurgle Possessed Champ with Talons.

4 attacks on charge with rending. NO shooting but at least I have a 5+ inv and T5. Although last time I believe a bolt pistol killed him before he charged... :evil:

[Rifleman Lizard]

I don't think any need to...there were 19, correct? Why not have a "play in" tournament for the last 4 entries to take the 16th spot, kinda like the play-in game in the NCAA Basketball tournament. I dunno, just a suggestion. Either way, I'm lookin forward to seeing how everything turns out.

ooh i like that idea - just because it means everyone who put some effort into making an entry at least gets 1 round of combat - but does give Warlock Cris some extra work, so will leave it up to his judgement.

EDIT - ONLY 2 SLOT's LEFT FOR HEAVY WEIGHT!

That's fine. I'd rather put in some more effort than let down the unfortunate three.
There is no need to axe people.

[Tarion'Maseth]

yeah i was surprised about that as well - but i'm still open for another entry so perhaps you won't be dissapointed.

- i think you will be surprised about who you end up fighting Tarion (not gonna ruin the surprise yet though.)

Oh dear... I'm worried. I don't know what there is that's capable of taking mine down, short of a Farseer :P

[Pox]

Oh dear... I'm worried. I don't know what there is that's capable of taking mine down, short of a Farseer

well let's just say we have had a couple of er..... creative entries. :wink:

but that's all your getting out of me till i get my last victim, *Ahem* i mean contestant.

[Tarion'Maseth]

Oh dear... I'm worried. I don't know what there is that's capable of taking mine down, short of a Farseer

well let's just say we have had a couple of er..... creative entries. :wink:

but that's all your getting out of me till i get my last victim, *Ahem* i mean contestant.

Ooooh, awesome. I'll admit, I didn't get creative. I got killy :P

I'm going to try to work it out based on what armies we have... It's not the Blood Angel, initiative 7 librarian is it? :lol:

[Rifleman Lizard]

Pox, I'll send you my HW entry later on today. I wish I could write it now but I'll have to do it later. I guess I can enter at least one.

[Pox]

sounds great, remember to pick up your free coffin after submitting your entry.

HEAVY WEIGHT SECTION IS FULL

i won't post who is fighting who, untill tommorow. - but rolling is highly unlikely to start till next week. (but you can always look forward to light weight and medium weight results in the mean time.)


I'm going to try to work it out based on what armies we have... It's not the Blood Angel, initiative 7 librarian is it?

no that doesn't very creative - that's just predictable. think outside the box. (you will never get it.)

[Scrooge]

*twidles thumbs and whistle whilst anxiously waiting for the first LW post be Warlock Chris*

[Rifleman Lizard]

Later on tonight, Scrooge. I have places to be. I'll post up a short intro and the round 1 table.

[Scrooge]

Ok, ill check in the mornin.

[Tyryt]

Heavy-weight = Warscythe, res orb, phase shifter. Need I say more?

Lightweight = Tzeentch possesed

yes, I'm evil. ;)

[Pox]

Heavy-weight = Warscythe, res orb, phase shifter. Need I say more?

i wouldn't be too cocky about that heavy weight entry - i know who you are facing in round 1 :eek:

[Scrooge]

tzeench possesed ai?
...
...
...
im not gonna survive the shooting phase am I?

[Mozric]

Lightweight: slannesh aspiring champion -- should get fairly owned by agonisers

Middleweight: Tau Shas'el -- Yay!

Heavyweight: Tzeentch Daemon Prince. I hope he does well, he has some "fun" abilities.

[cubez]

ohh we showing all now??

IG commissar, he ill pwn u all!!!

emperors champ ;)

chaplin + bits lol

[Tyryt]

i wouldn't be too cocky about that heavy weight entry - i know who you are facing in round 1 :eek:

Not too cocky, but a 4+ I and then another 4+ to stand back up, while ignoring any opponent save? odds are good I figure. Granted, relatively low initiative, it's possible he keeps getting knocked down and standing back up over and over......

[Scrooge]

Mozric gets to eat my Agonizer! please dont shoot me otherwise you wont be able to enjoy the amazing flavours and sensations of haveing a very pointy object enter your body from any opening i can find!

[Tarion'Maseth]

i wouldn't be too cocky about that heavy weight entry - i know who you are facing in round 1 :eek:

Not too cocky, but a 4+ I and then another 4+ to stand back up, while ignoring any opponent save? odds are good I figure. Granted, relatively low initiative, it's possible he keeps getting knocked down and standing back up over and over......

Hehe, I hope i get you :twisted:

[Scrooge]

Is it legal to field a spore mine?

[scythes]

Haha! I actually thought about fielding a spore mine, I just couldn't figure out a way for it kill it's opponent and not die itself.

Lightweight....BEWARE the gaunt! Gave him a devourer and all the upgrades I could, least he gets 2 shots and rerolls fails to wound. If he doesn't kill in shooting I'm out. There's not really much in the tyranid codex that has only 1 wound, and I didn't want to go with a stealer as I figured everyone fielding nids would.

Middleweight...Yeah, I did a broodlord with all the goodies. I only have a nid codex with me and I couldn't find anything else good to field.

And heavy weight...yeah, you guessed it, hive tyrant, totally based on CC though cuz I doubt I'll die before CC starts.

I know, not the most original, but with only the one codex I tried something odd in at least the lightweight. :D

[Hurricane06]

Lightweight- Salamander SM Veteren Sergeant w/ Power Weapon/BP, Combat Shield, Bionics

Middle Weight- Tooled Up Broodlord (along w/ the other 20 entrys)

Heavyweight- Daemon Prince Pustulo, Nurgle DP

I tried to get something from each army i use (or have used). The only one omitted was IG because they would get eaten alive.

[Rifleman Lizard]

Several people have sent me PMs asking if they are going to be removed from the lightweight arena.
No characters will be cut.

[Doohicky]

Lightweight- Salamander SM Veteren Sergeant w/ Power Weapon/BP, Combat Shield, Bionics

Middle Weight- Tooled Up Broodlord (along w/ the other 20 entrys)

Heavyweight- Daemon Prince Pustulo, Nurgle DP

I tried to get something from each army i use (or have used). The only one omitted was IG because they would get eaten alive.

Wooh! Another heavyweight Nurgle DP.. Can you 1 hit kill Tyranids with your's too??

[Hurricane06]

Lightweight- Salamander SM Veteren Sergeant w/ Power Weapon/BP, Combat Shield, Bionics

Middle Weight- Tooled Up Broodlord (along w/ the other 20 entrys)

Heavyweight- Daemon Prince Pustulo, Nurgle DP

I tried to get something from each army i use (or have used). The only one omitted was IG because they would get eaten alive.

Wooh! Another heavyweight Nurgle DP.. Can you 1 hit kill Tyranids with your's too??

You'll just have to find out...

...nope. Went for ignoring Invulnerable saves instead.

[Doohicky]

Wow, that took a lot of finding out :P

I'm surprised no one has entered the Berserker Glaive DP with Collar of Khorne! They are next to impossible to take down.

[Hurricane06]

I thought about a Khorne lord for about 5 seconds...but Nurgle is Cooler. I mean, c'mon, what other model in the game can kill things just by smelling bad?

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Tarion's entry is afraid of one thing, and only two entries look noteworthy enough to take it out. v.v;;

EDIT: Still holding off on revealing my middleweight, is Ritha full yet?

[Tarion'Maseth]

Wow, that took a lot of finding out :P

I'm surprised no one has entered the Berserker Glaive DP with Collar of Khorne! They are next to impossible to take down.

I did it last time, and didn't want to repeat myself. So I went for a quicker variant :P

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

And the only argument I have is that it's a pink dude with an axe, I mean seriously, Slaanesh digs the whips yo!

[Tarion'Maseth]

I see middleweight being split into two groups. Those with 2+ invulnerable saves, and those with Broodlords <_<

[tone.tran]

Haha, yay, I fit in one of those categories.

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

I'm in the third then. ;D

[Tarion'Maseth]

I'm in the third then. ;D

Those who are going to be eaten/beaten by the first two groups? :P

[Ron]

I entered a harle troupe master w/PW for lightwieght. I think I one of the executed people though. I probably would have been killed by shooting anyway. I won't tell my midweight entry :twisted:

[Doohicky]

I am also in group 3 of Middleweight..... No invulnerable at all, just gonna rely on lightning strikes and insta killing. Pity it won't work on the BroodLord. If I get past the first round I will be VERY surprised!

[Treehugger]

Im going to be very suprised if my lightweight entry makes it past round 1. Kinda banking on one certain rule to work out for me and I doubt that it will make alot of difference even then. But I thought it would be kinda fun, and something I highly doubt anyone else took.

My MW entry is entirly predictable as a Shas'el with trimmings. Again I doubt it will fair very well against all the CC gods people are likely to be putting out there.

[Andon]

My Heavyweight entry (Only entry) is going to run over some entries and fail miserably against the others.

Well, because it's a tank. Chimera to be exact.

Siege Regiment (Puts it in the 'Command' slot)
Crush and Grind (1d6 S4 hits on Tank shock)
Multi-Laser
Heavy Bolter

comes out to 200 points exactly.

[Tarion'Maseth]

My Heavyweight entry (Only entry) is going to run over some entries and fail miserably against the others.

Well, because it's a tank. Chimera to be exact.

Siege Regiment (Puts it in the 'Command' slot)
Crush and Grind (1d6 S4 hits on Tank shock)
Multi-Laser
Heavy Bolter

comes out to 200 points exactly.

What I expected from you :p

I should be able to smash you down. Daemon Prince ftw :wink:

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

I'm in the third then. ;D

Those who are going to be eaten/beaten by the first two groups? :P

I don't think so. Your imperviousness doesn't last all turn, either I will auto kill you with shooty or auto kill ya with assaulty, your choice. ;) (That's cuz I know Tarion's entry.)

[Pox]

I'm surprised no one has entered the Berserker Glaive DP with Collar of Khorne! They are next to impossible to take down.

that's basically my middle weight entrant then.

light weight is a fully kitted out plague ork. (counts as normal ork - but i know it has succumbed to nurgles rot.)

[Spam-Robot]

My heavyweight is just an Archite with useless things to make up for points. No more room in Middleweight for spam >_<.

[']['Ritha][]

-Flails- I'VE BEEN FULL SICNE PAGE 5 (Or was it 6?) OF THIS THREAD!

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Oh...calm down just everyone was announcing their full around this time except you :lol:

[Pox]

any identication of whom is fighting whom in the middle weight entry yet?

i have randomly sorted out my first round (Even if don't write till next week) but can't post it up till i get my last entry.

be interesting to see what races entered/who i'm up against.

[']['Ritha][]

Round 1 of Middleweight:

Pox v Mozric

Ron v Cubez

Gararion v sammy2028

Spam-Robot v tone.tran

Treehugger v YWizePapaSmurfy

Tarion'Maseth v dreadknot10

Doohicky v }khornatewoodelf{

Hurricane06 v scythes

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Well, now that the match-ups are revealed, here is my entry. Fairly confident in it too.

Autarch Vil'i

Autarch - Mandiblasters, Eldar Jetbike, Laser Lance, Fusion Gun, Shuriken Pistol, Plasma Grenades, Haywire Grenades, Forceshield [140]

[Tarion'Maseth]

Oooh, dreadknot, what're you using?

[Pox]

POX's Khornate daemon lord VS Mosrics Tau Shas'el

sounds fun :axe: - just glad i remembered to take feel no pain! :twisted:

[Ron]

Well, now that the match-ups are revealed, here is my entry. Fairly confident in it too.

Autarch - Mandiblasters, Eldar Jetbike, Laser Lance, Fusion Gun, Shuriken Pistol, Plasma Grenades, Haywire Grenades, Forceshield [140]

Well, since you are confident with yours, I guess I can be confident with mine because.......... Mine is exactly the same! :lol:

I guess it's time to start the sacrafices to the dice gods now.

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

:lol: Oh yay

[Pox]

LOL! i think i managed to avoid any of the same type fights in heavy weight strangely. (Sure they will occure in round 2 though.)

[Ron]

Great minds think alike huh?

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

I dunno, DE Lords still pwn this division.

[']['Ritha][]

I think I'ma start rolling and writing the first one. Want to get a headstart. <3

[tone.tran]

Yea, also means we might get to see some results soon =)

Let the BloodBath Begin!

[Ron]

At this point I am calling winning the 1st round a victory and winning the 2nd beyond hope

[Pox]

I think I'ma start rolling and writing the first one. Want to get a headstart. <3

go for it, heavy will be starting last.

and light weight has a mini knock out comp for the coveted 16th place i beleive.

well after 12 pages of posts - the tournament is about to open - grab a seat, eat some cookies and enjoy the show. 8)

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

I have no clue as to what I'm facing, but knowing Treehugger is the resident Tau expert...

Do I have to say it?

A Shas'el?

[tone.tran]

Are you guys making separate threads for each division? How was it done in the past?

[']['Ritha][]

Can I get a price check? Rage of Khorne, accordign to Army Builder, costs 15 points. Which tosses Pox over the point limit. But, it may idneed only cost 5. I just want to make sure, so I can smack Pox around and get him to drop somthing.

[Pox]

Are you guys making separate threads for each division? How was it done in the past?

in the past it seemed to be done via PM.

but we want a more "open" arena this time, so everyone can read the epicness of the stories even if they where not fighting at the time.

not sure about seperate threads - i think it will all be in this thread but each battle report will CLEARLY state at the top the contendors and the "weight" and the round number. (there is a battle report standard template found in the big first post if your unsure.)

bit awkward to sticky an extra 3 threads for this one topic. - but then again what does everone else think?


Can I get a price check? Rage of Khorne, accordign to Army Builder, costs 15 points. Which tosses Pox over the point limit. But, it may idneed only cost 5. I just want to make sure, so I can smack Pox around and get him to drop somthing.

no you are right :oops: i must have made a typo then done the maths from that. *pox receives cyber-slap* if you send it across i will send it back in a couple of mins. (not going anywhere fast)

[dreadknot10]

Oooh, dreadknot, what're you using?

well im using


ork warboss- big horns, choppa, slugga(blasta, shottier, more dakka) bionic arm, bionic bonce, and eavy armor, all for 116 points hopefully ill waaagh at ld 10 i got a good chance of being I 8. and if i shoot you and they hit thats a str 5 ap 3 shot. i have a good feeling with this guy

[Andon]

Rage of Khorne is 15 points. Talisman of Burning Blood is 5 points and right below it

[']['Ritha][]

-Edit- Thanks ;D -Hugs Andon-


-Smacks Pox- Drop somthing, bitch. You're 9 points over. -.-

[Tarion'Maseth]

Oooh, dreadknot, what're you using?

well im using


ork warboss- big horns, choppa, slugga(blasta, shottier, more dakka) bionic arm, bionic bonce, and eavy armor, all for 116 points hopefully ill waaagh at ld 10 i got a good chance of being I 8. and if i shoot you and they hit thats a str 5 ap 3 shot. i have a good feeling with this guy

Oooooh, interesting. My lay-dee should be smashing you down though, thanks to acts of Faith *hopes*

[dreadknot10]

now im a little worried, mainly cause im thinking a flying nun. that would ruin my fun, but then again luck is for the orks, and afterall im an ork so... is luck on my side?

[Pox]

-Smacks Pox- Drop somthing, bitch. You're 9 points over. -.-

EDIT- just tweaked my entry, and sent it back to ye. (last time i ever play Khorne!)

dropped furious charge and took daemonic fire for fun.

[Starscream]

Is it too late to enter?

[Pox]

Is it too late to enter?

yes, the last slot for the last section got filled up yesterday - sorry.

[Mozric]

Are you guys making separate threads for each division? How was it done in the past?

in the past it seemed to be done via PM.

but we want a more "open" arena this time, so everyone can read the epicness of the stories even if they where not fighting at the time.

not sure about seperate threads - i think it will all be in this thread but each battle report will CLEARLY state at the top the contendors and the "weight" and the round number. (there is a battle report standard template found in the big first post if your unsure.)

bit awkward to sticky an extra 3 threads for this one topic. - but then again what does everone else think?

It'd probably be much easier to sticky three threads. If I unsticky this one, and then after the tournie move them to the Forum Archive, all should be grovy. The Stickies will be a little packed for a while, but it should be all right.

[Pox]

It'd probably be much easier to sticky three threads. If I unsticky this one, and then after the tournie move them to the Forum Archive, all should be grovy. The Stickies will be a little packed for a while, but it should be all right.


ok sounds cool - will help to avoid a lot of confussion - will leave it up to whomever is in charge of each section to make a new thread. (will put mine up when i am ready to write)

[Treehugger]

Well Im fairly certain Pappy Smurf is going to decimate me. My entry is:

shas'el (Fusion Blaster, Plasma Rifle, Shield generator. HW: Iridium Armour, HW: Mulit-tracker, HW: Stim Injector)

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

No no, shooting phase will be interesting :P

Why?

Everything you throw at me is capable of autokilly.

[Treehugger]

Hehe yea but you have an invuln save dont you? And your FB can autokill me. And unless im wrong your melee attacks can auto-kill me, and ignore normal armour? If so my Stim Injectors will be useless so will that 2+ normal save ;D hehe should be fun anyways.

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

well, at BS 5 you can kill me easy, if not, we are par.

[dreadknot10]

im interested in seeing how my heavy weight does, being the heavy hitter that it is, im wondering who shall be the first victim, muwahahahaha, or shall i be my own victim?