Who killed admin andy?[Mini Mafia 24][day 1]

[The Tommunist]

Who killed admin Andy?
You walk into chat. You sit there chatting, sipping on your tea. It’s all good, There’s cake to! Andy gets up.
“K guys, I need to use the toilet. “
Alot of emoticons come up. Lol’s and the such. And Andy leaves for the toilet.
There’s a growling sound.
“Puma?”
There is the sound of screaming.
“yes..Puma”
Theres a gurgling sound, and a thump, as something gets into the air-vent.
“Sigh.. I’ll get the broom”
Theres a thumping sound, as the broom is wacked against the air vent.
“GTFO damn puma”
“HISSSS” the puma replies.
“Get the shot-gun”
Theres a banging sound as the shotgun is fired, and a dead puma falls through the air-duct.
“Let’s eat it”
“No”
“What happened to andy?”
“he’s dead Jim”
“My names not Jim”
“But who let the puma loose in there?”
There was a beeping sound, and the doors to the chat closed.
There was banging at the door but the door would not open.
“This is the Internet police”
“Theres police on the internet?”
“There is now”
“This is the police, We have Locked the doors, The murderer is still in there. You must find out who it is...AND KILL HIM!
“Oh damn. Well, me might as well get it over with. “

The Rules
1) You may only post in the thread if you are alive. Contentless death posts are allowed, but only if they are absolutely contentless.
2) You may not communicate privately at any point unless told so by me.
3) I expect you to post at least once every 72 hours. If you don't post within a 72-hour interval I'll send you a reminder PM; if you don't post within the 24-hour interval after that I'll start looking for a replacement and mod-kill you if I can't find one. The interval will be reset after the end of each day.
4) You may not directly quote anything I send you privately.
5) You may not edit posts (not even to correct grammar and spelling mistakes).

Day phases will have a negotiable 7-day deadline (i.e. if people ask me for an extension before the last 24 hours I will consider it). If a lynch has not been reached by the deadline then the player with the highest number of votes will be lynched automatically. If multiple players have equal numbers of the highest number of votes then voting on other players will shut down and the day will continue until one player receives more votes than the other, at which point they will be lynched.

At the moment, this is a 12 man game, If i get more attention, i don't mind extending it to a normal mafia game.
Malcadon1 (innocent): killed night 0
Kilroy (not in the game): Lynched day one.
Lance Warrior (Innocent)Killed night 1.
Players
1)Drakon
2)MalkThe2nd
3)ShadowSplicer57
4) Smurf
5)t0k0l0v3r
6) Xarboth
7)Mozric
8)Ghost
9)Novasry
10)LanceWarrior -killed night 1 when off topic gets lodged in his Chest.
11)Zawicki
12)scythes

[MalkThe2nd]

I'm #1 baby!

[MalkThe2nd]

Noooo, reserve make me #2.

/sadface

[The Tommunist]

:mrgreen:

[ShadowSplicer57]

Count me in!

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

In this like Andil's hotdog in a bun. ;D

[t0k0l0v3r]

sure, what the crap, i'll join.

[Xarboth]

IN!!!

[Mozric]

I'm so in. Must avenge the admin

[The Tommunist]

I'm so in. Must avenge the admin
That made me Gaffow.

And i don't often do that.

[Diagnosis Ninja]

I'll sign up, but only cos it's like a decade since I last played :P

[Novasry]

In

[LanceWarrior]

I'll be pretty inzors if you wouldn't mind

[Zawicki]

inz0rs

[The Tommunist]

Added everyone. We need one more person and we can start.

[MalkThe2nd]

lol, I forgot to read the story before.

Poor puma, livin in a cougar world.

[scythes]

I"ll get in on this, been a while since I saw a mafia game!

[The Tommunist]

I"ll get in on this, been a while since I saw a mafia game!
Thanks mate. I'll send off roles now.

[The Tommunist]

The Chat split for a second. A problem with IRC hub maybe?

"huh?"

"what happened to the other half?"

"Don't know, they're gone"

"Meh"

The other half came back, Including malca, who had been separated from his Tea.

"My tea"

"Sick tea lover"

He took a sip from it. And then fell over dead.

Some one got up and looked at the tea.

"Poisoned puma poop in it"

"really?"

"Dead serious"

Malcadon1: (Innocent)Killed night 0

there was a shouting from out side the chat.

"Its the internet police again, its day 1 of the investigation, you better find that killer"
DAY 1

[Zawicki]

Vote: Mozric

He is trying to trick us into thinking he is pro town by saying he will avenge andy.

[ShadowSplicer57]

Hmm... Judging by the air/speed velocity of an incoming swallow carrying a coconut... IT MUST HAVE BEEN KILROY!

Vote: Kilroy

Wait... He's not in this game? Well, pass me that medal anyway damn it!

[DrakonTheNightLord]

The Dark Side of the Force has clouded my vision....

Well fuck you, Dark Side!

Vote: Dark Side of the Force

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

First of all, it's called a Warthog
Vote: Warthog

[Mozric]

Oh fuck it's drakon

Vote: Dr.akon

[t0k0l0v3r]

For the sake of all that is holy i vote Robin, and his Holy Metal!

VOTE: ROBIN

[Novasry]

Vote Smurfy

It's a Puma...

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Look...It has tusks...What other animal has tusks?

[video:153g3q79]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sx_3m-FhAI&feature=channel[/video:153g3q79]

[t0k0l0v3r]

uhhh...a walrus.

[LanceWarrior]

Vote: Nova

For not liking Warthogs...

[Diagnosis Ninja]

HOLY DIVER! You've been down too long in the midnight sea. Oh what is this, that I see?

Peter Pan, yeah! It's the sign of the enemy. I'm gonna vote for that EEE!

Vote: yWizePapaSmurfy

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

D: Just 'cuz I eat kittens doesn't mean I don't love them...
Oh and now to lay off the acid...

Unvote: Warthog

[The Tommunist]

VOTE (the) COUNT (monty chirsto)

Mozric (1)(Zawicki)
Kilroy (1)(Shadow splicer)
Dark Side of the Force (1)(DrakonTheNoobLord)
Dr.Akon(1)(Mozric)
Robin (1) (T0k0)
Smurfy (2)(nova)(Ghost)
Nova (1)Lancewarrior

[MalkThe2nd]

Vote: Baragash

Don't let the player roster fool you, Bara's the real culprit.

[scythes]

Vote: Malk

for posting before me, psychic people are evil!

[Xarboth]

YEAH! Mafia has started!

Vote: Smurfy

He eats kittens!

[Xarboth]

Actually, unvote: Smurfy. Didn't realise that he already had more votes than anyone else.

Vote: Scythes because no-one has yet. Plus, he might also eat kittens. At least Smurfy's honest about it.

[t0k0l0v3r]

Unvote: robin, cause thats just silly, however, I will change it to Kilroy, sincei can at least benefit from it, lul.

Vote:Kilroy

[Mozric]

I stand by my vote, and think that we should be ever vigilant of red text.

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Hey...I was gonna say something about the Red text...

I don't think I've played with any of you before, so I really got nothing to add regarding behavior patterns and such, if any, at the moment.

[Diagnosis Ninja]

Hey...I was gonna say something about the Red text...

I don't think I've played with any of you before, so I really got nothing to add regarding behavior patterns and such, if any, at the moment.
Don't worry, someone will screw up eventually, we'll all mob him, and he'll have a green name.

Happens every time :/

[DrakonTheNightLord]

I stand by my vote, and think that we should be ever vigilant of red text.

:smt010 :smt013 :smt025 :smt029 :smt043 :smt065 :smt076 :smt077 :smt084 :smt084 :smt086 :smt093 :smt096 :smt097 :smt105 :snakeman:

:orcass:

[LanceWarrior]

Unvote: Nova
Vote: Ghost

For meta-gaming

>_>
Yes, I am intentionally voting for him like he said would happen

[Diagnosis Ninja]

Unvote: Nova
Vote: Ghost

For meta-gaming

>_>
Yes, I am intentionally voting for him like he said would happen
HA! I claim this as proof of my innocence!

...Or something like that.

Besides, it wasn't metagaming, was it? :S

[LanceWarrior]

Unvote: Nova
Vote: Ghost

For meta-gaming

>_>
Yes, I am intentionally voting for him like he said would happen
HA! I claim this as proof of my innocence!

...Or something like that.

Besides, it wasn't metagaming, was it? :S

I took it as you were using evidence and procedures from other games to try and prove someone's (unknown yet) innnocence.

"I tell you what lads - this Ghost fellow seems like a slippery bugar, i'd keep an eye on this one" :P

[Diagnosis Ninja]

Wasn't meant like that. I can't remember ever seeing Smurf play, so i thought I'd make a joke about usual procedures.

Besides, when did the bad guy ever get lynched first? I've never seen it lol.

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

I sense we might get lucky in getting a Puma/Warthog/ what-have-you early, after all it's a small game.

[MalkThe2nd]

Although possible, it can't be just left to luck.

If we're to get one of them Day 1, it has to be by a large margin of votes. Otherwise they could just tag 1-2 votes somewhere if one of them is in danger, and you can't read too much into Day 1 voting. So basically, we'd have to blindly pick in the dark as a group rather than individuals.

Not that I have any idea who to pick. :?


Oh, and Unvote: Bara just in case you were about to list that tom. :P

[t0k0l0v3r]

yeah untill there's some sort of mismatched info/sudden change in someone's behavior, i dont see how we'd get a mafia boy on the first day.

[Xarboth]

Have we turned serious all of a sudden? I'm slightly unsure, since from people's tone (or at least, what you can tell of someone's tone from pure text), things seem to have gone serious, but from the content, it seems that we're concluding that the best way to lynch a mafia on day one is to pick a random and everyone lunge for the bandwagon!

I understand the logic behind the fact that we need to vote as a group on day one, but that poses problems in itself. The mafia could easily be the ones to pick the random victim. And our only way to counter that is to all vote for the first person to suggest the victim...

Tricksy, no?

(I realise that people weren't actually, seriously suggesting a random bandwagon, by the way!)

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Just as a notice, Lance, I don't like small text like that...Me having to copy and paste text to a reply box is annoying, thanks...

And Xarboth, it's almost always a entirely random bandwagon, from experience. One time I got mad at Sub for misspelling my screen-name...That went sour quick! lol

[DrakonTheNightLord]

Unvote: Dark Side of the Force

I hate your avatar, man.

Vote: yWizePapaSmurfy

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

D: Kitten eating is not liked...How not fair...

[Xarboth]

Admittedly, it is usually an entirely random bandwagon, but it tends to develop fairly slowly until the mafia slap the final couple of votes on! (or, if they're playing well, the penultimate votes and leave someone else to take the guilt!)

What we're suggesting is effectively the blitzkrieg of all bandwagons! We plan it first, and then, BAM! We strike, and: one mafia down...

Ah, the glorious first-day trend of killing innocents! This is why we all love mafia, right? Wait, what? We love mafia for the ability to make bad/wrong decisions based on at least some facts? Ah, I see...

(Also, please take my tone as still-slightly-in-joke-mode, rather than as cynically-picking-flaws-in-any-suggestions-without-contributing-any-of-my-own!)

[Diagnosis Ninja]

Brackets are the enemy Xarboth. When did you forget that?

unvote: Smurf.

vote: Xarboth: wielder of brackets!

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Drakon clearly is onto something about my Avatar, sir, I hate YOUR avatar...

Oh ya I went there

Vote: Drakon

Those arent brackets they're parentheses!

[DrakonTheNightLord]

:<

Double vote for good measure: yWizePapaSmurfy

[The Tommunist]

:<

Double vote for good measure: yWizePapaSmurfy
In the dark recesses of the IRC hub. the lord of the IRC, tom, looked down on the comings and goings. Drakon, a lowly mortal, was being annoying. He kicked him from the Server he was in. Drakon was back in a second later, but he would always fear the wrath of tom.

Don't do that double voting thing, It confuses me.

[Novasry]

having a lack of internet access atm, will be able to play properly by wednesday

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Aight, everyone else think we can hold up till Wednesday to allow Nova to have his input? I mean we do have a week, but the longer the Day Phase goes on in the past, the more time the Pumas/Warthogs/Mafia has to put ideas in our heads. <.<

And Drakon - You revoke your vote on my avatar, and I will do the same to you.

[DrakonTheNightLord]

:<
Noes!


I need to see a votecount to decide on anything anyway. I'm votecount fixated >_>

[scythes]

Unvote: Malk

I hate text walls and Xarboth is just pumping them out like Skaven Slaves. It's also really confusing saying this then that then this then that then this then that then this then that then this then that....*smack*....sorry....anyway....

Vote: Xarboth

[Zawicki]

*cries because no one has voted against him*

I guess I'm just not cool enough to get joke voted.

*sob*

[The Tommunist]

Vote count mother fucker
Mozric (1)(Zawicki)
Kilroy (2)(Shadow splicer)(T0k0)
Dr.Akon(2)(Mozric)(Smurfy)
Smurfy (2)(nova)(Drakon the log lord)
ghost(1) (LanceWarrior)
Scythes (1)(Xarboth)
Xarboth (2)(ghost)(scythes)

[DrakonTheNightLord]

Eurgh, fine.

Unvote: yWizePapaSmurfy

I still hate your avatar.

[Mozric]

I think the people have spoken that the menace Drakon needs to be stopped.

[Kilroy]

I'm innocent I swear I didn't do it!

[The Tommunist]

I'm innocent I swear I didn't do it!
Thats what they all say.... :twisted:

[ShadowSplicer57]

LYNCH HIM! LYNCH HIM! ITS A WITCH!

[MalkThe2nd]

Look, we all know Kilroy prolly didn't do it... so we're gonna lynch him anyways! w00t

@Xarboth: My thought was just that no matter what we do, the odds are significantly against the Day 1 mafia lynch. Even if we went with that plan the mafia could still attempt to sway us like you said.

Idk, I just hate the joke phase... and although there;s no real way around it... I can try right? :P

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Unvote: Drakon

As per agreement.

Waiting on a possible analysis from Nova before possibly pointing any serious fingers, if I should.

[Diagnosis Ninja]

Why wait? Judge everyone! It's the natural way of things!

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

:smt037 Obscure smiley feels awkward.

Will be gone today and tomorrow most of the day, FYI. This is for you all to know why I won't probably be responding till Thursday evening.

I have no excuses or whatever for my *notable* vote count against me, I'm thinking those are still joke votes just easy to stick by, as with the rest of them.

Unless, of course, they're hate votes vs. my avatar...if so then GIT OFF MAH AVI!

'Nuff said.

[MalkThe2nd]

Idk Smurf, everyone might jump on you for being out that long.

Oh wait... *BUMP*

[The Tommunist]

Slight BUMP, for the purpose of getting this game up and out after the move.

[Diagnosis Ninja]

vote:tom

[The Tommunist]

vote:tom

Your going to hell for that one

[DrakonTheNightLord]

When's the day phase ending? Can we get a vote count?

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

I'd just like to say I'm back and disappointed that Nova hasn't posted any analysis like he said he would.

Vote:Novasry

Mostly to intimidate, nothing really backing this one. <.< I just don't like non-contributors.

[Zawicki]

Well, it is kinda hard to contribute on day 1.

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Agreed, but not even posting a thing save "I'll post more later" bugs me.

I'm more than willing to pull this vote down.

[Zawicki]

I kind of just want to end this phase as soon as possible. it's frustrating just sitting here saying we have nothing to go on. And I know next phase someone will have found something. If they do, they shouldn't reveal themselves, but they should subtly edge the town in the right direction.

And I know someone is going to say, "He wants to get to the night phase, he must be mafia, because all mafia want to get to the night phase to get their night kill."

[Mozric]

I mean it's possible. Possible you have a pro-town ability too, so I'm not reading too much into your desire to get to night phase.

I think it's better if we kill somebody with a large majority so the anti-town can't affect it so much (with 1 vote for example), but I don't know who to go for.

[The Tommunist]

Yes, im ending the phase now, Its gone on for more then 7 days.
End of day 1 Vote count.


Mozric (1)(Zawicki)
Kilroy (2)(Shadow splicer)(T0k0)
Dr.Akon(1)(Mozric)
Smurfy (1)(nova)
ghost(1) (LanceWarrior)
Scythes (1)(Xarboth)
Xarboth (1)(scythes)
Tom:(1) Ghost/DN
Nova (1) Smurfy

Not voting (2) Drakon, Malk the second.

Well....You killed someone who wasn't in the game.

Kilroy(Not in the game) Was lynched by the mob.

Kilroy sat down for tea, a pile of cookies next to a porcelain cup. He took a sip, but some of it split on him. The cup was rattling, the whole room was rattling. Oh shit. Oh shit he thought. Not this again.

And then the mob hit his house.

It is now night 1. I need PM's within 48 hours.

[Diagnosis Ninja]

Nope. I'm not happy with that tom. Take it to Sudden Death.

[The Tommunist]

Nope. I'm not happy with that tom. Take it to Sudden Death.

Between who and who? Kilroy was lynched fair and square.

Yeah, it was a weird first round, but it happens.

[LanceWarrior]

Between who and who? Kilroy was lynched fair and square.

Yeah, it was a weird first round, but it happens.

Tom - you can't kill someone who wasn't in the game. Plus the game has been somewhat disturbed by the upgrades to the forums. You need to add more days on to the game, and mail everyone to remind them that this game is on - a link to the thread would be a good idea, as it doesn't appear in people's subscribed threads, until they post in it on the new board.

[The Tommunist]

It's well within the rules actually, (well, it's in the grey), the person with the most votes after 7 days (about 9 really) is lynch'd. While i will be closing the loophole, it's happened. Another way to see it is a different way to play mafia, I've played several games where it wasn't required to lynch a person each day. Kilroys just putting a face on what is basicly a non-vote. Tl:dr it happened, it won't happen again in this game.

Edit: I'm not trying trying to force the issue, It was my opinion, that after 9 days, a forum changer over, and a very silly first day, that my optoons were ever to restart the game or lynch the person with the highest votes. Luckaly, I could shelter this inherient unfairness because a player not in the game had the most votes.

[The Tommunist]

Allright.

The lights went off, Bamn. Quick, in a flash. And then, just as suddenly, it was on again.

Lance Warrior was dead. Killed with the Off topics lodged in his chest.
Lance Warrior (Innocent)Killed night 1.

It is now day 2.
------------------------
Ok, i think some general tightening and reiterating of rules.
1)You can only vote for someone in the game.
2)You have 7 days to vote, at the end of the 7 days, the person with the most votes Dies.
3)If a person gets 6 votes on them before this time, then they automaticly are lynched.

[Diagnosis Ninja]

WTF? How was that worked out? If that was you just going with a random lynch, I want nothing to do with this game.

[Xarboth]

I think that was the results of the night actions, rather than Tom undoing the Kilroy lynch.

[Diagnosis Ninja]

Well that's the shittest thing I've ever seen.

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Alright guys, I don't think we should mess around anymore, seeing as Tom really did go there and kill a non-player again while letting the Pumas kill again. -_-;;

[Mozric]

Well, let's see who voted for Kilroy:
Shadow splicer and T0k0

I can understand the joke vote on Kilroy, but leaving the vote until the end of the day? Surely a sign that they don't want to engage in any sort of discussion.

So I think I shall
Vote: Shadow Splicer
(FOS: t0k0)

[MalkThe2nd]

Idk Moz, while they havn't added much to the convo their actions did result in us gaining a bit of time. We should be down two people already and this is a mini afterall. Not that I trust them but that's how I feel about it.

[Zawicki]

I think of it as an abstain, which the town should never do, as it is usually a hurtful move.

Vote: Toko

While agree with moz, he is already voting for the SS, and I don't want someone to have 2 votes yet.

[DrakonTheNightLord]

Malk has a point... but then again, I don't think they were purposely voting for Kilroy to give us any 'time', me thinks they forgot about the game... But I still don't think a vote on SS/Harold would help much.

[t0k0l0v3r]

now now, lets not be hasty (i voted for kilroy for the medal, nothing more, nothing less)(which was now pointless due to the forum move). Honestly, i think Smurfy's trying to throw suspicion off himself by using the avy as a guilt point. If people are afraid to vote for him since he had a strange avi (and didnt want to say such things to offend smurf) then he might life long enough to kill again.

Vote: SMURF

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

I changed it so there should be no excuse now Toko...Unless you hate this new one? o.O

Anyways I concur with the people trying to derail the thread before by voting for Kilroy and thereby giving the Mafia a free kill.

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Woah, a editted reply happened instead of a quick reply.

I am most annoyed, read up everyone, sorry about that. (Stupid new browsing of forums :()

Basically said that I have changed avatar so I won't be using that as a "excuse"

I agree the two folks who voted Kilroy should be looked into for giving the Mafia a free kill.

And I assure you I am not Mafia, I was among the first to take down my joke vote to try and anaylze seriously because it IS a mini-mafia and every day a agreement is not met for a lynch means every night the Mafia will keep killing innocents.

[t0k0l0v3r]

Well, listen to this thought: Chances are, if I had changed my vote to a person still in the game, it would have been an innocent. At which point we would have been down 2 innocents rather than just one. I very well might have done you a favor. But, i suppose i should have changed my vote when it mattered. Regardless, my actions have led me to this consequence of being a prime suspect.

[Mozric]

I don't know why you're so sure that the alternative to killing nobody was killing an innocent. Killing a mafia on day 1 is rare, but it can happen. As I said in Day 1, though, it's not going to happen with a thin majority.

Well, i've now added Malk and Smurfy to my list of suspicious people.

Malk in swiftly trying to defend t0k0 and SS
Smurfy in getting particularly defensive when under suspicion.

Drakon has a point, but i don't know what he suggests that we do.

[ShadowSplicer57]

T0k0 pretty much took the words out of my mouth with his post up there.

The way Moz seems to be trying to create a bandwagon on us, the Kilroy voters, makes him one of my prime suspects. I mean even look at what he has been saying:


Well, let's see who voted for Kilroy:
Shadow splicer and T0k0

I can understand the joke vote on Kilroy, but leaving the vote until the end of the day? Surely a sign that they don't want to engage in any sort of discussion.

So I think I shall
Vote: Shadow Splicer
(FOS: t0k0)
A careless mistake? I myself was the SECOND to post on Day One. The way Moz mentioned both of us and clearly tried to start a bandwagon is what made me suspicious in the first place.


I don't know why you're so sure that the alternative to killing nobody was killing an innocent. Killing a mafia on day 1 is rare, but it can happen. As I said in Day 1, though, it's not going to happen with a thin majority.

Well, i've now added Malk and Smurfy to my list of suspicious people.

Malk in swiftly trying to defend t0k0 and SS
Smurfy in getting particularly defensive when under suspicion.

Drakon has a point, but i don't know what he suggests that we do.
This post furthered my suspicion because it appears to me he is branching out, making the voting become chaotic, he also gently nudges for a T0k0 bandwagon by trying to further the suspicion. And the way he is slyly avoiding pinning anything on Drakon has me looking at him as a probable suspect as well.

Oh and I know what you're thinking: Moz has the vote on you, so you're against him. No, not at all. It merely gave me the motivation to look at his posts and analyze them for clues. All I'm showing is what I have on him, which is to say, very little. I'll wait and see what the general opinion of this is to place my vote.




Well that's the shittest thing I've ever seen.
I don't think you understood him so just in case, it was the Mafia that did it over night, not Tom.

[Zawicki]

The sad truth is there is still no information, so any kind of lead is the best we can do. Voting Kilroy and then not unvoting is basically the same thing as abstaining. Abstaining is the worst thing to do on day 1 because you get literally no information. Therefore anyone who abstains is a MORE likely candidate for mafia. Even if we had lynched a pro town player, we can still get useful information. If we had killed a mason we could more easily identify who his partner was. Moral of the story, don't abstain.

[Mozric]

When did I try to create a bandwagon? By your logic you are suspicious for trying to create a bandwagon on me. Suspicion =/= bandwagon. This game is about suspecting people and seeing how they act.

What's bad about branching out? Surely that weakens your argument that I'm trying to bandwagon 2 (!) people, because i now suspect more people.


No, not at all. It merely gave me the motivation to look at his posts and analyze them for clues. All I'm showing is what I have on him, which is to say, very little. I'll wait and see what the general opinion of this is to place my vote.
I don't mind if you're suspicious of me. Vote for me if you want to. This just makes it look like you don't want to be the person accused of starting a bandwagon.

As things stand I'm still not convinced of SS57's guilt or anything, but at the moment he seems the most suspicious person on my list. I may change my mind later, if people mess up or something, but I see no reason to change my vote now.


tl;dr: I vote for SS57 and he goes after me while avoiding coming on too strong by not voting for me as well. More suspicious behaviour.

[DrakonTheNightLord]

Vote: Mozric

I understand we don't have much to go on, and voting for someone just because they voted for Kilroy is pretty much all we have and all - long story short, I'm suspicious of Mozric, defo vote.

[t0k0l0v3r]

So, when someone tells me that the first day of a mafia game is always wonky and i go and place my wonky vote, just cause im trying to go along with the flow, i'm the one who's geting pinned for it? as far as i see, thats a pile of horse hockey. And yes i can understand that we dont have much info, but hey, go with what you feel.

also, while the bit of logic that is within the line of abstaining thought is solid, its also blown way out of proportion. Moz is also on my list of suspicions, but has yet to recieve my vote.

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

I fully admit my avatar thing first day was a "excuse" but by no means a serious one, lol. More or less did already.

However, I am not one to point fingers in two places at once, even if we have to start somewhere.

I'm gonna wait a bit longer and review later, have had a trying week so far.

[MalkThe2nd]

Malk has a point... but then again, I don't think they were purposely voting for Kilroy to give us any 'time', me thinks they forgot about the game... But I still don't think a vote on SS/Harold would help much.


I don't know why you're so sure that the alternative to killing nobody was killing an innocent. Killing a mafia on day 1 is rare, but it can happen. As I said in Day 1, though, it's not going to happen with a thin majority.

Well, i've now added Malk and Smurfy to my list of suspicious people.

Malk in swiftly trying to defend t0k0 and SS
Smurfy in getting particularly defensive when under suspicion.

Drakon has a point, but i don't know what he suggests that we do.

So, I'm suspicious for defending their actions... but Drakon has a pint in saying I have a point.

I was quick to defend toko and SS because that's how I feel, and it seems very to me to attack them for us. Sure we could have got a mafia, and that's the best we could have done. But Kilroy death is better than a town death.

Vote: Mozric

I'm getting an odd feeling from ya, and I want to test something.

[scythes]

I was a bit suspicious of Malk on day 1 due to his long and confusing posts. It almost seemed like he was trying to sow confusion into a day that's already full of joking and confusion anyway. Also, it's odd to test something by voting for someone, that just pique's my curiosity.

I'm also suspicious of Drakon, his reasoning for voting for Mozric just doesn't seem kosher to me.

I have a few other suspicions, basically anyone not named Scythes, but it's still early and I'm gonna see what others have to say before I place my vote.

[Zawicki]

Unvote: Toko

Vote: ShadowSplicer

[Novasry]

yeeeeeer, I completely forgot about this one, sorry guys :P

For now I'm gonna go off a few suspicions I had in day 1 and

Vote Smurfy

will give things a proper read 2morro if i can...

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Aight, reviewing everything, seems a lot of people are against me for my intimidation tactic day 1? That's what I'm thinking, anyway. Since none of you played with me before, do note I have done the same before in Pox's game way back.

I have really no excuse for this game so far though but a few folks have been voting and leaving discussion/reasoning out. I have no way to prove my innocence, I don't plan to. But I expect reasoning behind votes, not just "I forgot about this, Vote: X, etc and leave the thread.

That's the mark of a very unproductive game member.

Because of this I am looking at Novasry, Mozric and Zawicki.

Zawicki because he's suspicious of anyone pointing fingers early, we gotta start somewhere, bud, I am fully prepared to always pull my vote and reason with people if they post a response.

I have noted Mozric is pointing fingers multiple places to get a lynch going, I see nothing wrong with that. We need a more progressive turn 2 than 1, yes? At least we're all ganging up on me and not a non-game player like before.

And so, I lean to Vote: Novasry Because so far, I gave him benefit of the doubt for a better analysis than just "oops forgot about this, bandwagon vote here" posts. That's pretty much all he's done all game so far.

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Oh by the same token, I don't like Moz because he's getting so defensive over people pointing out he pointed fingers, I will point fingers every which way if I need to as well, and generally, until I have now like 5? Votes on me, I don't care. But now, figuring people will bandwagon me to the end, at least I had my say.

[Novasry]

Aight, reviewing everything, seems a lot of people are against me for my intimidation tactic day 1? That's what I'm thinking, anyway. Since none of you played with me before, do note I have done the same before in Pox's game way back.

I have really no excuse for this game so far though but a few folks have been voting and leaving discussion/reasoning out. I have no way to prove my innocence, I don't plan to. But I expect reasoning behind votes, not just "I forgot about this, Vote: X, etc and leave the thread.

That's the mark of a very unproductive game member.

Because of this I am looking at Novasry, Mozric and Zawicki.

Zawicki because he's suspicious of anyone pointing fingers early, we gotta start somewhere, bud, I am fully prepared to always pull my vote and reason with people if they post a response.

I have noted Mozric is pointing fingers multiple places to get a lynch going, I see nothing wrong with that. We need a more progressive turn 2 than 1, yes? At least we're all ganging up on me and not a non-game player like before.

And so, I lean to Vote: Novasry Because so far, I gave him benefit of the doubt for a better analysis than just "oops forgot about this, bandwagon vote here" posts. That's pretty much all he's done all game so far.
what do you mean ALL I've done, I've posted twice and the first time i was the first to vote for you :P

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Sure whatever :P

[Zawicki]

Zawicki because he's suspicious of anyone pointing fingers early, we gotta start somewhere, bud, I am fully prepared to always pull my vote and reason with people if they post a response.

suspicious of anyone pointing fingers early? Where do you get that from. I just said that voting for Kilroy was like abstaining, and I hate abstaining. I voted for toko because I agreed w/ mozrics post about the people who voted for kilroy, and he had already voted for SS. I then changed my vote to SS to get people talking again, and I still agree with what mozrics post.

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Ah, probably misread...I noticed I don't have 5 votes on me, jeez this new forum format confuzzles the hell outta me.

Anyways, blargh

[Xarboth]

In the last few days I've checked the active games thread, this topic hasn't been marked as having any new posts, but now I check and it's got posts from all of those days! Weird. Ok, sorry for my absence - I was under the impression that we were all being fairly absent at the moment what with the new forum, etc.

Now, maybe I'm tired and have missed something, but Zawicki posted a while back talking about who we might end up lynching by not abstaining, and he said (very paraphrased!) 'Yeah, we might kill an innocent. We might also kill a MASON." Is it just me, or is that the first and only mention of masons anywhere? In which case, I'd like to know why Zawicki's talking about masons - does he know something the rest of us don't, and if so, how?

[Zawicki]

It's simply an example of how even if we had lynched a pro town player it would have been better than abstaining. By killing a mason we would could make a safe assumption that there is another mason, therefore whoever came out saying they were a mason would be verified (unless it was a mafia lying, but let's not go there now). Besides, if I were a mason, I wouldn't want people to know it this early. Same thing if I knew there were masons.

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

A Mason is a mini group, neutral or pro-town, and in a small mafia like this, one shouldn't exist. Not to say that you can still do it. One possible tactic as a Cop (since I am not one, I was before, though we failed by 1 vote. :() Is to investigate yourself first night. This is to verify your sanity. If you turn up guilty, you know you're insane and get opposite results from what the person actually is. If you turn up still innocent, you know you're Sane. With this and Night Phase whispers, you can form a coalition of a informed league of innocents that know each other are innocent.

Helped a ton, I think we fell to our demise with a lurker player remaining and we pretty much forgot about him and he couldn't trust our remaining group members to make the proper vote, in that game.

It's a bit risky though, you could have Mafia or Townsperson ring up as a framer - Appear as Innocent/Guilty (respectively) under Investigation regardless.

Which is why I ignored that part of Zaw's post. I highly doubt Mason's exist in this small of a game.

[Xarboth]

Yeah, I assumed it was mainly speculation because you wouldn't drop that kind of thing in so early in the game.

In other news, Tom, my role PM seems to have vanished from my inbox. I'm pretty certain I didn't delete it, so I'm thinking it may be something to do with moving to the new forums. I know pretty much exactly what it said, but can you send it again if possible? And should the original post be updated to have Lance's rolename in, or are we not going to find out rolenames of dead people? I've forgotten what the norm is!

[The Tommunist]

I'll resend your PM, but Lance warriors role is in the first post. He was innocent.

[DrakonTheNightLord]

Would appreciate it if we knew Lance's role. A votecount and deadline would help as well.

Sticking with teh mozvote for now.

[The Tommunist]

Would appreciate it if we knew Lance's role. A votecount and deadline would help as well.

Sticking with teh mozvote for now.
It says so in the first post. "Lancewarrior(innocent) Killed night 1"

Unless you can't see my edit. : \

[Xarboth]

That's just his alignment. We're talking about his rolename, as in what character name he plays. Is that not normally given too?

[The Tommunist]

His role name is innocent. His Alignment is green/pro-town his forum character name he was given was a joke, but confuses things up there. I can post it though.

[Mozric]

Well I was going to reread the thread and post some analysis but I've been kinda busy. Had a party and was horribly hung over.

Anyway, people are voting for me?
I'm not sure why. I voted for those that were on the kilroy vote yesterday, then there was a lot of OMGUS which seemed to convince some people. I'm wary of those who buy a mozric bandwagon so easily.

Tom: Can we have a vote count, and time till day end?

[The Tommunist]

Sorry, My internet browser HATES the forum, and crashes 8/10 times i bring up 40kforums. Will try and do it tonight.

[MalkThe2nd]

Sorry I've been away so long guys. Well, the vote count is AFAIK...

SS: Moz, t0k0
Smurf: t0k0, Nova
Moz: Drakon, Malk
Nova: Smurf

Deadline: Yesterday, at about 6pm.

Which leaves us tied on Moz, Smurf, and t0k0 and needing a breaker.



I've already explained most of my reasoning for voting you Moz. I still don't see how votes that extend the towns time = bad. Then, after I pretty much say "I disagree" you say I'm suspect for "swiftly trying to defend t0k0 and SS" after I specifically said I don't necessarily trust them. Then Smurf is added to the list for "particularly defensive when under suspicion" which I see as more of "not wanting to be joke voted Day 1".

Well, that was most of it, then there's the other part. I dropped a hint about this earlier which scythes seemed to pick up on. I'm an investigator and on night one I got a guilty result on Mozric. At first I was planning on waiting until Day 3 to claim with a 2nd result to help me figure out my sanity. But if my suspictions (and results) are right, I feel like I'd be targetted by a mafia kill tonight because I openly disagree with my suspect. So I decided to spill the beans and hope we have a doc.


As for secondary suspictions, I find myself looking to Zawaki. The instant I voted Moz it put him ahead of everyone else. At that point Zawa changed his vote from "I agree with Moz" to "I agree with Moz and I'll tie the votes up" with 0 words in the post other than the vote change.

[Zawicki]

Actually, the vote count is

SS: Mozric, Zawicki
Smurf: t0k0, Nova
Mozric: Drakon, Malk
Novasry: Smurf

We still have a 3 way tie, but with 1 or 2 changes on who is voting for who.

Malk, as I said, the reason I changed to voting to SS was because no one had posted in a while. It was a bump and got discussion going again. Feel free to still see me as suspicious though.

[MalkThe2nd]

Yeah, I accidently listed t0k0 as voting twice. Didn't want to double-post and edits are the devil.

[The Tommunist]

Thanks, Malk/zawicki, I'll extend to the day phrase by 2 real days to get a tie breaker. (Sorry, my computer REALLY hates the new forum)

[Mozric]

Is it sudden death or deadline extension?

Well, you guys are unlikely to believe me, but I'm a plain innocent. I can only assume that Malk is paranoid or insane. As you said, Malk, it could have been a good idea to wait another night to test that, but I guess you have to go with your investigation result.

If it helps, I ask that people go back and read what I've said and ask yourself if I am behaving like a mafioso. I leave it to the judgement of the rest of you.

[ShadowSplicer57]

Sorry I've been sort of lurking for awhile, been bogged down by a deadly amount of schoolwork lately.

But look at this, a three way tie. I am still very suspicious of Mozric because based on how he played in the other Mafia game I was in, he is playing in a noticeably different fashion. How so? Well, the fact is I'm not really even sure, basically I'm going off a hunch and the tiny little suspicious actions I mentioned earlier. But he just gives me a real bad vibe. And so (for now):

Vote: Mozric

In my own defense, much like Mozric, I cannot say much but "I'm innocent!". This lynch is going to be a hit or a miss where we have nearly nothing to go off of. And I'm only after Mozric because of the behavioral differences I've noticed between both games.

EDIT: Wow! I didn't even see what Malk had said up there until now! I just thought TL ; DR, if I would have read it beforehand then this vote would have been so much easier.

[The Tommunist]

Ok, i need to revive this.

At end of the day 2, Its as stands.


SS: Mozric, Zawicki
Smurf: t0k0, Nova
Mozric: Drakon, Malk, shadowsplicer.
Novasry: Smurf

So, Mozric dies.
Lynched day two: Mozric (Andy)
You came at him with stones and sticks, He kicked and screamed, struggling to escape. But it was to late. Mozric lay dead. And then, his face peeled back.And there was andy. The one you had thought dead. But there was still someone out there. Some one killing.
It is now night two. I need all PM's

[Mozric]

So... apparently Tom is cancelling this game?

[The Tommunist]

So... apparently Tom is cancelling this game?
Yeah, i don't have the skills (Nor the time actually) Any to continue it. It was really only a fill-in game until someone better set up a game.

[Zawicki]

Is it just me, or is every game that gets set up having some sort of roadblock? All of them seem to have sparse updates, or something happens in the GMs life and they can't continue. It makes me a little sad that none of them are getting finished.

[The Tommunist]

Is it just me, or is every game that gets set up having some sort of roadblock? All of them seem to have sparse updates, or something happens in the GMs life and they can't continue. It makes me a little sad that none of them are getting finished.
It is a bit like that, which is why i've been trying to refrain from doing any. I lose interest after a short while, or life comes up.

[ShadowSplicer57]

*Sad face* And just when we killed a Mafia...

[LanceWarrior]

Someone really needs to drill into GMs, that if they are able to start a game they should be able to finish it. Dissappointed that once again a mafia game has not been finished tbh.

[The Tommunist]

I was in a shit place this morning when i wrote that. the games still going ahead.

[MalkThe2nd]

\o/

*hurries up and waits for Day 3*

[Zawicki]

so is this dead or alive?