Mafia Mod Waiting List (old and obsolete)

[Subzero]

This is, as of 26/04/09, the main topic for mod signups. The games lists in the Mafia Information topic were located at the bottom, along with the rules on how to sign up, which made them harder to find. Anyway, if you want to mod a game, just state in this topic, in the Mafia info topic or via PM that you want to do so. If possible provide me with the name of your game and the type of game (Normal or Mini) as well. Mini games have 12 or fewer players and are generally faster than Normals (as you would expect), which can have any number of players.

On a separate note, it's a general guideline that you try to stick to playing 2 non-Intro games at the same time. This does 2 things: 1) prevents regular players from taking up all of the places available at any given time, thereby reducing or stopping the flow of new players and 2) increases people's commitment to their games by preventing them from spreading their efforts too thinly across multiple games, which may reduce post frequency and effort put into each individual game.

This topic can also be used for general advertisements/interest checks for upcoming games.

If anyone needs any help with designing a game, don't hesitate to ask me.

Here be the lists:
Normal Games (Running and Finished)
An Inquisitor Calls (Subzero) – Finished (Mafia victory)
A Night of Darkness (KaintheSlayer) – Finished (Town victory)
Infected Laboratories (Andon) – Finished (Town victory)
Adrift in Oblivion (Sneggy) – Finished
The Warp Consumes (Andon) – Finished (Mafia victory)
Ashbury Peaks (Subzero) – Finished (Mafia victory)
Sanitarium (Andon) – Player Abandoned
The Infection Spreads (KaintheSlayer) – Finished (Mafia victory)
Shadytown: Behind the Badge (Subzero) – Finished (Town victory)
Haunted Town (Mozric) – Finished (Town victory)
May the Emperor Preserve (Pox) – Finished (Town victory)
Shadytown: Life is Cruel (Subzero) – Player Abandoned
40kforums: A Tale of Woe (Mozric) – Finished (Mafia victory)
The Den of Hive Primus (Yeti) – Finished (Town and Neutral victory)
Into the Belly of the Beast (Kilroy) – Finished (Town victory)
Back to Basics (Subzero) – Finished (Mafia victory)
There's No Place Like Home (Tarion'Maseth) – Finished (Mafia victory)
Strange Aeons (Treehugger) – Finished (Mafia victory)
Lost in the Warp (Kilroy) - Finished (Town victory)
Isn't Life Swell? (Treehugger) - Finished (Cult victory)
Ashbury Peaks III: The Inheritance (Subzero) - Finished (Town victory)
Trouble at Hive Marias (Novasry) - Finished (Cult victory)

Normal Games (Waiting List)
(Tarion'Maseth)
(Subzero/Mozric)
(Kilroy)

Mini Games (Running and Finished)
Arcane University (Mozric) – Finished (Second Mafia victory)
Fun and games at Black Cove (Kilroy) – Finished (Mafia victory)
Nightmare in the Dreamworld (Subzero) – Finished (Mafia victory)
Red Moon Atrocity (yWizePapaSmurfy) – Put on hold
Ashbury Peaks II: Family Matters (Subzero) – Finished (Town victory)
The Game (shotcoder) – Finished (First Mafia victory)
LOCKDOWN! (ForlornAmour) - Mod Lost
Heroes (Treehugger) - Finished (Town victory)
Death Note (Enigmacookie) - Finished (Second Serial Killer and Judas Victory)
Wild Accusations and Finger Pointing (Treehugger) - Finished (Second Mafia victory)
The Village (Grotfang) - Finished (Town victory)
Mystery of the Library (Mozric) - Finished (Town victory)
Small Town, Small World (Subzero) - Finished (Town victory)
Spacestation Slaughter (Tarion'Maseth) – Finished (Mafia victory)
The Problems with Werewolves (tom206) - Mod Abandoned
Live and Let Die (LanceWarrior) - Finished (Mafia victory)
What's in the Mist? (Morior) - Finished (Mafia victory)
Train of Consequences (Kilroy) - Mod Abandoned
The End (Enigmacookie) - Finished (Mafia victory)
Superzeroes (Subzero) - Finished (Mafia victory)
Wicked Wastes (Enigmacookie) - Finished (Mafia victory)
Between Grey Mud and Sky (Subzero) - Finished (Town victory)

Mini Games (Waiting List)
The Asylum (shotcoder)
(Kilroy)
(LanceWarrior)
Who killed admin Andy (tom206)
(Fahrenheit)
(MalkThe2nd)

Intro Games (Running and Finished)
Trouble in Sicily (Subzero) – Finished (Mafia victory)
The Family Business (Subzero) – Finished (Mafia victory)
Blood in the Water (Subzero) - Finished (Town victory)
The Roots of Evil (Subzero) - Finished (Mafia victory)

[Mozric]

I'm going to put my name down on the waiting list for a mini mafia.
It will be a bit of a different one, with some interesting twists perhaps...
I think it'll be called "The Mystery of the Library".

Players:

1) Subzero
2) Grotfang
3) Doohicky
4) EC
5) Dark_Assassin
6)
7)
8)
9)
10)
11)
12)

[Grotfang]

I am also putting my name down for modding a mini mafia. It will be called "The Village". I mentioned it a little while ago in the discussion thread. It will be a 12 player game. No abnormal mechanics; sub's FAQ contains everything that could come up.

[Subzero]

Mozzie, I'll sign up to that.

I'm also planning on running a 12-player game. The name will be Semi-open Roleset Mafia (oh my, how original). I discussed it a little in the Mafia discussion thread; the point of the game is that I reveal a list of roles that may be in the game beforehand (only roles on the list will be in the game) but there are a significant number of roles more than the number of players such that you can't just predict which roles will be in the game.

Players:
1) Enigmacookie
2)
3)
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5)
6)
7)
8)
9)
10)
11)
12)

Replacements:
1) Treehugger
2)
3)
...

EDIT: I don't think this thread is going to have enough regular traffic to keep it afloat, so could it be stickied?

[Baragash]

EDIT: I don't think this thread is going to have enough regular traffic to keep it afloat, so could it be stickied?

Done :)

[Treehugger]

I've got a couple of mini's written up that id like to run. But im going to hold off on putting a sign up out there yet since we already have a few pending. Will wait until those get run, just wanting to hold a spot in line ;)

There appear to be three mini's in sign ups currently and we can only sign up for two so I will sign up for Moz's and Grots (to give him a chance at modding). Sub feel free to put me as a replacement for yours.

[Subzero]

Tree, there isn't a line as such any more so you can't really hold a place in it.

On a separate note, I've slightly modified the rule about the number of games you can be in to make it more sensible: if you die in a game you no longer count as being signed up to it. If you're alive in a game you count as being signed up to it. That includes current games. In other words, rather than having to wait for games in which you're dead to end before you can start new games, you can play in other games instead.

[Grotfang]

Forgot to say, I will sign up to Moz's game!

[Doohicky]

I'll sign up to Mozrics.

[Enigmacookie]

I'll sign up to Subs
And seeing as Forlorn's is on hold, I can sign up to Mozric's as well, right?

[Subzero]

Forlorn's game doesn't currently count as being active. If you're in Forlorn's game you can sign up to another game (provided that you're still within the 2-game limit - if you're signed up to Kilroy's game then you can only sign up to 1 more).

[Enigmacookie]

Right, I'll sign up to yours (Sub), then.

[Treehugger]

Heres a question. Do we think this thread is fulfilling its purpose?
I ask because there are....2 or 3 (I cant remember how many without looking over it, which is kind of an indicator that it isnt working if active players cant remember how many games are in sign ups) games in sign ups in the thread and non of them are close to filling up.

In the last round of game sign ups there were several games that were filled up within a few days, and these dont seem to be being filled up despite weeks passing by. It could be a case of waning interest in the games, but I think it is simply that this format for sign ups doesnt work as well for these forums as the old style.

Id like to go back to the old style of creating a thread for sign ups on each game. We can go to a system where you simply have a thread for sign ups, and once the game starts you start a new thread for the game itself (and have the sign up thread moved to the archives) if you dont like the idea of sign ups being in the same thread as the game itself.

This is just my opinion, what do yall think?

[EcoTerrorist]

Just a quick note.

I counted teh Wins for Town versus Mafia and I noticed that it is 9 Vs 14(mafia)

Is it typical for Mafia to have such a large advantage over the town?

[Mozric]

yeah, it's easier to unbalance the game in favour of the mafia then in favour of the town. Also the mafia tend to be more interested in the game and better motivated.

Treehugger: you may be right. Maybe if we start topics as "Game name (expressions of interest)" and even leave it there for some time until it seems like a good time to start.

This thread is still useful to keep track of the games though... especially planned normal games.

[Subzero]

I think part of the problem is that when this topic started we had four games waiting for signups/running/just having finished. That drained people in terms of how much Mafia they wanted to play, hence there is less interest than we might normally have. Mozzie has a good idea in that people could post their topic but not necessarily start the game immediately if there are a lot of other games running. Having a topic for signups and then a new one for the actual game seems a bit redundant given the small scale of Mafia here. I guess the important thing rather than a topic with all of the signups in it is the limit to 2 games that prevents people from taking up all of the spaces and lowering their quality of play.

EDIT: yarr, there's a pretty significant discrepency between Mafia and town victories. This is in part due to the large numbers of Mafiosi some games have had. Then again there are some games in which the Mafia have had too few people and lost as a result (the second game on the site, can't remember the name) or won against the odds (The Infection Spreads).

[Treehugger]

I am on board with the 2 game limit idea. It just doesnt seem, to me, like this thread is working (while your probably right and the fact there were so many games starting at once may of hurt sign ups on the games in sign ups, since then there has only been 1 game running and still no one signing up). Its less visible and less straight forward than sign ups for games in their own threads. Moz's idea is fine with me; start a sign up thread but hold off on running it if there are several games running at that point.

I think we should stick with the waiting list on normal games like we have been doing. The larger games should be paced correctly like they are now. And I can even see this thread being useful for keeping track of who is interested in running mini games.

Have people say they are interested in running one and put them in a kind of waiting list line but not as strick of one as the normal games. That way someone who has been waiting for 3 months to run a mini doesnt get skipped by someone who posts sign ups first.

Im just throwing ideas out there.
But I think the games that are in sign ups should start new threads for their sign ups and lets see if we can get some interest going (I know I have several ideas for games i'd like to run but I want to give these games a chance first).

[Grotfang]

Have people say they are interested in running one and put them in a kind of waiting list line but not as strick of one as the normal games. That way someone who has been waiting for 3 months to run a mini doesnt get skipped by someone who posts sign ups first.


And yet despite being the fourth person in this topic to express an interest in running a mini mafia, you still jump in and start yours before seeing if anyone else wants to go first. A tad hypocritical, in my opinion. If you present a view point such as this it would, to me, seem only polite to carry it through in action as well as words.

I think yours is going to be the first mini mafia game I have actively decided not to participate in.

[Subzero]

I do think it was a bit unfair to avoid starting signups (considering the fact that Mozzie hasn't modded a game in some time and Grotfang hasn't modded before) and then go ahead and start a game anyway.

It shouldn't matter too much for the next person to start a game because we currently have only two games running/waiting for signups so there should be enough people for a third, but the next person after that will have to wait until one of the three running games ends. Mozzie seems to have his game almost ready, so unless Grotfang has everything ready I guess Mozzie should run his game now and Grotfang should go later.

Aside from that it is true that this thread isn't serving its purpose and signups are much faster in-thread, as Tree's game has shown, so I think this thread should be used as an interest check thread rather than anything else (although it will still have the waiting list for Normals and the Mini game list).

[Grotfang]

I do have one ready, but I would rather let Moz go first. I will start mine when either his or Tree's finishes

[Nidnerd]

Ill sign up for moz's

[Treehugger]

Im sorry if you think I was wrong to start my sign ups. I will delete the thread if thats what yall want. I honestly dont think I did anything wrong. This thread wasnt working. I said I thought so and asked for other people to chime in. It seemed like people agreed we should go back to the old system. So I said we should, and that people should move their games to a new topic to get them going. I intentionaly waited several days and no one did that, then started my thread.

I take alot of offense at being called a hypocrite after waiting for you to move your sign up thread and then you failing to do so. I thought I gave it plenty of time, how long should I have waited? Weeks? Months?

[Grotfang]

Maybe make it clearer that you were waiting for other people to go first. I hadn't got the impression that we were moving away from the idea of having a sign up topic and therefore didn't think to start a thread, especially before Mozric had had a chance.

EDIT: And no, don't delete your thread. What's done is done. All I am saying is that if we are moving towards the idea of having a waiting list for mini mafia (which I do agree is a good idea) then it would have been better to start as we mean to go on.

[Treehugger]

Maybe make it clearer that you were waiting for other people to go first. I hadn't got the impression that we were moving away from the idea of having a sign up topic and therefore didn't think to start a thread, especially before Mozric had had a chance.

But I think the games that are in sign ups should start new threads for their sign ups and lets see if we can get some interest going (I know I have several ideas for games i'd like to run but I want to give these games a chance first).
There was 0 conversation in this thread after that until your post where you made personal attacks against me for posting signups. I waited three days before posting those sign ups. Like I said im sorry if you feel I was wrong and I needed to have waited longer but it seemed to me that there was plenty of time for people to read and do it first, I even said I was going to wait for yall to do that to give you a chance to run them. But it felt like the games were stagnating with nothing actually happening which is the death of mafia.

[Baragash]

Treehugger, Grotfang:

Having read the Warp game topic too, there's at least a little danger this conversation could reach the point where warnings have to be handed out. I'd really like to avoid that situation with quality members I respect, so perhaps if there's anything you feel needs to be resolved, you could do so privately (cc me if you feel a witness is necessary), and then if some sort of conclusion regarding the mechanics of sign ups is needed, one or both of you can bring that to the topic.

If everyone else could continue regarding the way forward with sign ups and leave what has happened be, that would be appreciated.

[Grotfang]

I apologise. I have no issue with the mechanism that Treehugger suggested. Having a waiting list seems the most logical approach. Best to leave it at that perhaps. As I said last post, what's done is done and I hold no grudge.

[Mozric]

sorry about the wait, i haven't really had the time to start my game, and i'm going away this weekend. So Grotfang or Subzero do one of you want to jump in and start your game. I'll move my game down a few places.

[Subzero]

Grot, as it's your first time modding you can go first.

[Grotfang]

Cool. Will do. I will wait for Treehugger to start his first though

[Subzero]

Not much point doing that as it won't have any effect on either game if you start signups now.

[Treehugger]

I agree. Plus if your fills up before mine there is no harm in that anyways.

[Mozric]

still pretty busy, so I'll probably even be running my game after Sub.

[LanceWarrior]

I'll sign up for Moz's game.

[Subzero]

Mozzie, you can start your game now if you want. If not I'll start mine - it's just that the next Normal is mine, so I'll already have a chance to mod relatively soon.

[Morior]

I would like to sign up for a mini-mafia game, as it would be my first mafia game ever.
So if anyone is starting one soon, please count me in
I wants to learn! :D

[Grotfang]

Hooray! A new player :)

[Subzero]

I'm planning on running an Intro Mafia game soon - it's basically a game with standardised, simple roles (that show up commonly in our games) with mostly new players but some more experienced players to show people how to play (not necessarily by explaining the rules, but that might work as well).

[Morior]

Well count me in please sub whenever you get round to it :)

[Enigmacookie]

Yay! :D A new player!
Welcome to the family, Morior (should be Sub saying that, really :P)

Anywyays, Sub, as I'm soon dead in Kilroys mafia, I'd love to play in your Intro Mafia as a half-experienced player. I know that you'd mostly like new-players in the intro game, though.

[Morior]

Thanks very much
To be honest i've been looking over the Mafia info thread for quite some time now.
But was hesitant to actually sign up incase I make a noob mistake and screw the game up for everyone else.
Fairly certain I have a basic concept and confident I wont make any dumb mistakes
So...
*fingers crossed*

[Treehugger]

Dont worry about being new. Everyones new at some point and trust me the mistaked you could make have been made (including a newbie mafioso posting his private PM in the chat on accident ;D). So its fine, mafia games need new blood or they get old and stale with just that same people all the time, so jump in and we will welcome you whole heartedly.

[Morior]

Dont worry about being new. Everyones new at some point and trust me the mistaked you could make have been made (including a newbie mafioso posting his private PM in the chat on accident ;D). So its fine, mafia games need new blood or they get old and stale with just that same people all the time, so jump in and we will welcome you whole heartedly.

I have the hang of posting and PM'ing by now... I think... so hopefully there will be no repeats of that matter :P
But thanks for the welcome, am looking forward to many mafia games with you guys and girls

[LanceWarrior]

I sent sub a PM about running a mini-Mafia, but thought it might also help to post here. Moz's gave me an idea about themed Mafia games, so I think mine might by James Bond based.

[Morior]

Oh that sounds sweet lance, ill be up for that, assuming this first game i'm in goes well and I dont mess up, Duuurrrgh!

[The Tommunist]

gagh- putting my mafia on the waiting list.

[Tarion'Maseth]

Is this still where we register an interest in running a game? I'll sign up to run a Mini, if I may. No hurry.

[Subzero]

Current Minis planned:
Me
Lancewarrior (via PM and in Info topic)
tom206?
Morior (via PM)
Tarion

If we can get more players then we could go up to 3 Minis running at the same time, which is partly why I'm running Intro games again.

[Morior]

Oh, I'll go after Tarion, Mine will probably have quite a complicated plotline see: This thread (http://www.40kforums.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=62484)
And it will take me a while before I can even get started on it, never mind sorting out the complications that could arise...

[Enigmacookie]

Hmm...

those will be mini mafias 14 - 19, right?

Well, I sign up to make mini mafia...29 or something, if that's all right :P should be enough time for everyone to forget the flop no. 9....>_>

I'll try to keep it nice and simple this time around :D

[Kilroy]

I'd like to do one... Somewhere down the line...

[Grotfang]

What is the current waiting list like for running normal games?

I have had some ideas for one and I was hoping to put my name on the list now, as it should be ready soon.

[Treehugger]

i'll sign up for another mini, there are several people ahead of me now which is fine. Letting other people run also.

I think the list for normals is Kilroys game, Sub and then Me.

[Subzero]

Here is the current Mini waiting list:
(Subzero)
(Lancewarrior)
Possibly tom206
(Tarion'Maseth)
(Morior)
(Enigmacookie)
(Kilroy)
(Treehugger)

Is everyone fine with this listing? If so I may put myself down for the game after Tree...hopefully we can get up to 3 simultaneously Mini games sometime soon otherwise this list will probably last until the end of the year.

Grot, I've put you down for the next Normal game after the 2 ccurrently on the list.

[Doohicky]

I am in the planning stages of a mini mafia now. Quite a simple one, but depending on the success/or lack of it I may have a sequel for a proper sized one.

[Novasry]

i have plans for a full sized mafia in the works right now, if i could go on the waiting list please

EDIT:

Gam ei scalled "Trouble at Hive Marias" and will be 18 players

[Tarion'Maseth]

Oh, can I also sign up for a full game? I've just had an idea occur to me.

[shotcoder]

I'd like to sign up for a mini mafia named "the Asylum"

[The Tommunist]

i do want to do a mafia

[Subzero]

I'll put you down for a Mini game, but given how little experience you have playing Mafia it might be best if either 1) your game is postponed a little or 2) I help you out a fair amount with the game design (that is, unless you have experience from elsewhere).

[Le Shirrif]

I will do one in the future, written up myself some pretty nice roles, but won't have time to mod one for a while.

[Subzero]

A Mini or a Normal?

[Le Shirrif]

Sorry, should have said in first post. Mini to get used to the modding side. after that, I'll try a full.

[Andon]

I would like to run a game. Micro-sized - 5 or 6 people tops.

I want to test out an idea I have.

[Subzero]

Not sure whether I should put that in with the Mini games or make a separate list for it...

[Treehugger]

Id say put it in with the mini's. Mini pretty much just means 12 player max, for instance my Heroes was only 8 players and I considered it a mini.

[Subzero]

That's one way of looking at it. The issue is that the end of the waiting list will be reached in about 3 months time, which seems quite a long time to wait just to run a very small game to test out a new mechanic or something like that.

However, we may have a shortage of people right now due to exams starting.

[Novasry]

just a quick question, anyone got any idea what the time in the waiting list for my mafia to begin will be, looking at it i think about 3 months, just want to note an about time on my calender so i remember to write something if i don't keep up with the other games...

[Tarion'Maseth]

It does feel like Mafia sign ups are slowing down.

With any luck, the intro's will keep pulling new people in.

We only need one or two more and running another mini with the others will be plausible.

[Subzero]

I think it's a temporary thing (with exams) but it's quite obvious that signups to the Normals are pretty low compared with what they once were (we struggle to get 18 players).

Still, if I can get a single new player to fill Intro 4 we'll end up with another few new players (Arateus, connor and the last player), plus there's Gkjester (old Mafia player, I might ask him to join Tree's game).

[Le Shirrif]

The lack of sign ups is probably due to the fact that this is bang in the middle of the exam period for the UK. Half term next week, so maybe more activity then.

[Kilroy]

I'll do a normal mafia game after Tarion's normal

[Mozric]

Is it worth starting a topic for the next Mini Mafia now? Subzero's is almost finished, and since Tarion's filled up so quickly it's possible there are some players left over who are only playing one game. It doesn't mean that it has to start now, just that it's ready for players to trickle into.... I think it'd good if there's always one Mafia thread open that is ready for signups (also good for newer players who are keen but not quick enough to jump onto the fast-starting mafia games).
Then when people start dying in the other games the next mini mafia should start to fill up.

Lancewarrior, are you ready to at least start a topic?

If not, next on the list are:
(tom206)
(Morior)

[Subzero]

Lance has told me that he'll be ready to start a game by the 16th of June or thereabouts. I have to admit that I'm not overly comfortable with tom moderating without more actual game experience (in both the Intro game and Tree's current Normal), but if he wants to then he could start his game pretty soon.

[Mozric]

I agree, Sub. Perhaps we could encourage more use of modding games in groups. Even if you just have one other person to check over your ideas and help with the balance, it's good.
Morior has played one intro, one mini and one normal (died early) and is playing another mini now. I think he could make an interesting game, but maybe he might want some help too.

[Morior]

My mini is more or less ready to start.
I've written up the fluff, have all the roles sorted and organised into PM form.

Sub helped me iron out any creases, and pointed out his opinions in where certain things didnt fit,
or wouldnt work in a mafia game. So if it runs smoothly, then its all thanks to sub :)

I've only got to write up the nightkill/lynching death posts. I'm just doing it in advance so I have a pretty stressfree first modding attempt that should run as smoothe as butter.

[Subzero]

Even if you just have one other person to check over your ideas and help with the balance, it's good.Yeah, I've been helping a few people (Lance, tom, Morior and Shirrif) with their Minis, and Nov with his Normal. As more people start to regularly mod games this could expand so that every game run by a first-time mod has a co-mod that helps with design, but right now you and me are probably the only ones with the experience/intuition to be able to do this.

[Treehugger]

Thats not a bad idea. Everyone needs help sometimes (I still have questions I ask from time to time on specific situations), and I know it would be helpful to the people modding for the first time.

[The Tommunist]

hmmm, i;m ready to go as well, but i dont mind wait a little bit if you dont think im experienced enough

[Subzero]

I think you'll be able to start your game by mid to late June, by which time you should have more experience. I'd still be a little wary of you modding a game, but I don't think there should be too many problems as long as I (or someone else with experience modding) act as a co-mod and help you out with the game, writing role PMs etc..

[Mozric]

Well, with Sub's mafia finished we need one or two new minis up! I think that a lot of people are in both Tarion and Treehugger's game, but there should be at least 6 people left over (as there are 18 players in Tree's), and if there are a few more who are only playing one game or are just interested in mafia the spots should fill up. And as soon as people die in the two games they're free for another really, so I think within a week we should easily be able to have a Mini running, then depending on demand another one filling up for a few weeks after that.

Just sayin' that people should try to get their minis up early, give plenty of time for sign-ups.

Maybe we could bump Lance down one slot if tom's ready now.

[Subzero]

I've done that and told tom last night that he could go ahead and start his game, although I'll be reviewing things like role PMs and keeping an eye on the game.

In terms of players, the following are only playing one game:
1) Ghost
2) Kilroy
3) Malk
4) Doohicky
5) Scythes
6) LaSherrif
7) Novasry
8) Gkjester
9) Pox
10) Baragash
11) LanceWarrior
12) Grotfang
13) Treehugger
14) Zawicki
15) Morior

Then there's isthatmycow, Andon, Tarion and Smurfy, all of whom aren't playing any games currently. There's also connor the cleaved, who seems to have returned to 40kforums.

[Morior]

If theres other games going I'll sign up for those too, I want as much exp as possible before hosting my game. I just didnt think there was any more...

[LanceWarrior]

Maybe we could bump Lance down one slot if tom's ready now.

Well i've spoken to Sub and I should be ready to start mine about the 16th June - that's the day of the last exam for me so i'll have the time on my hands.

[Morior]

In terms of minis, mine is basically ready. I can start mine as soon as possible, But it has to start on a thursday, otherwise when I go away for 3 days later on, the night phase would have to be put on hold.
There would be no delays at all if Mine has all the players in and ready by any thursday.

[Subzero]

Remember that even if you have a deadline for day phases, days may end before (if a non-deadline lynch occurs) or after (if a sudden death lynch occurs after the deadline) that deadline.

[Morior]

We could start it pretty soon, then it could be over before I leave. I leave on the 24th of July, so thats a month and just less than 3 weeks away from now.
Is that too short a time limit for a game?

I am only away for 3 days though, so it could work out that I leave at the start of a day phase, and am back before the night phase kicks in.

[The Tommunist]

im up to do another one in the fuure if my current one goes well. i have an idea for a tf2 one

[Subzero]

We could start it pretty soon, then it could be over before I leave. I leave on the 24th of July, so thats a month and just less than 3 weeks away from now.
Is that too short a time limit for a game?

I am only away for 3 days though, so it could work out that I leave at the start of a day phase, and am back before the night phase kicks in.Minis typically last a month, but I don't think the 3-day holiday would be a problem. At most you would have to slightly extend the deadline on a day or night phase (or cut it slightly short). Going by the current list and the times people are expected to start, I would expect the following to happen:
June: 1st - Tarion starts game
10th - tom starts game
16th - Lance starts game
30th - Tarion ends game
July: 4th - Morior starts game
10th - tom ends game
14th - EC starts game
16th - Lance ends game
20th - Kilroy starts game
August: 4th - Morior ends game
8th - Tree starts game
14th - EC ends game
18th - Doohicky starts game
20th - Kilroy ends game
24th - Sub starts game
September: 8th - Tree ends game
12th - Shot starts game
18th - Doohicky ends game
22nd - Le Shirrif starts game
24th - Sub ends game
October: 12th - Shot ends game
22nd - Le Shirrif ends game

That's with our current list and assuming 4 days for signups. As you can see, with these predictions your holiday won't have a significant effect on the start or finish of the game. I still think it would be simpler to send me the roles people have and the death scenes you want posted; as long as it's made absolutely clear in-thread who to send actions to if there's a night phase I doubt there would be any confusion.

[Morior]

Ok, I'll start mine on the 4th of July then I'll send you the roles, and the death scene via PM a few days before I leave, if its needed

[Mozric]

Remember though (Lance too), that you'll probably want to post the topic up a bit before you plan to start. Depending on how active people are it may be up to a week before everybody's seen the topic. As I've kinda been saying, I'm in favour of the next person on the list starting up sign-ups as soon as the previous game gets started.

[Morior]

Okies, well I'll start the signups for mine on the 27th of June, that gives a week for people to sign up.

[Subzero]

Yeah, it would probably be best for signups for each game to start before the previous game actually finishes. Possibly when there are about 4-5 players left in a Mini, as that's the sort of number of players that are alive in the final day phase. That way each new game could start around the time the previous one ends.

Using the above list, but assuming that another game starts as the previous one ends:
June: 1st - Tarion starts game
10th - tom starts game
16th - Lance starts game
30th - Tarion ends game, Morior starts game
July: 10th - tom ends game, EC starts game
16th - Lance ends game, Kilroy starts game
31st - Morior ends game, Tree starts game
August: 10th - EC ends game, Doohicky starts game
16th - Kilroy ends game, Sub starts game
31st - Tree ends game, Shot starts game
September: 10th - Doohicky ends game, Shirrif starts game
16th - Sub ends game
31st - Shot ends game
October: 10th - Shirrif ends game

Remember that this is just a rough guide, though. The average Mini length is (I think) 4 weeks, but there are 5-week and 3-week games.

EDIT: Mini length data:
1 3 5 6 8 9 10 11 12 13
42 26 33 33 18 36 21 26 38 32Number of game on first row, length (in days) on second. The average for this data is 30.5 days. However, 1 ran before 1-week deadlines were common, so we can probably exclude that, and 8 had 2/3 of the players of most other Minis. The average stays almost constant with those removed. It's based on 8 games of the 10 completed/with data, so we can probably assume that it takes a month (30-31 days) for a single 12-player Mini. Given that a lot of games will run over the next few months we'll be able to see quite quickly whether this is accurate.

[Morior]

Sounds good.
I cant wait to get started. I reckon everyone should Enjoy it.
I love my fluff and tend to write a hell of a lot of it.

[Kilroy]

I'd be up for starting on the 20th

[Subzero]

Of July, unless you meant that already.

[Kilroy]

Or... Did I???

[Treehugger]

there are several people on the normal list already so im going to sign up for another after there's are done.

[Pox]

was gonna suggest moding a mini-mafia as got an interesting idea that is pretty much ready to roll - but that is one LONG waiting list.

[LanceWarrior]

Looking at the state of Tom's game (Mini Mafia 15) I think maybe Sub's schedule should be pushed back a bit - as Tom's game still has 6 open spots, so maybe I should start mine a bit later?

[Subzero]

There's a list of people who aren't in 2 games at the top of the page. Some of them have signed up to tom's game, but others should be available (especially as both Tree's and Tarion's games continue and more people die).

[LanceWarrior]

Shall I start signups for my mini once Tom's is full?

[Subzero]

Yeah, you should probably start when his is full.

[The Tommunist]

if you can find people yes, ive been stuck on 8-9 people for a few days, which suggests that theres not many people who are free.

[bigfishboy]

I will join a normal one! Or a mini one!

Mail me

[Morior]

Shall I start signups for my mini once Tom's is full?

Toms is full and has started!

SIGN UPS SIGN UPS SIGN UPS!!

Is it really bad that I'm acting like a child when it comes to mafia?

[LanceWarrior]

Shall I start signups for my mini once Tom's is full?

Toms is full and has started!

SIGN UPS SIGN UPS SIGN UPS!!

Is it really bad that I'm acting like a child when it comes to mafia?

Will do, don't worry. Tomorrow (Monday) or Tuesday at latest. Because it's 11PM currently, and I have GCSE stats revision to do for Tuesday. But my exam will finish at around 1130AM so I'll have it up by 3PM - again at latest.

But needless to say Morior I'll reserve you a spot.

[Morior]

Dont rush it man if you've got exams coming up.

Cheers for the spot :)

[LanceWarrior]

Dont rush it man if you've got exams coming up.

Cheers for the spot :)

It's currently lacking rules and a story, but it's there. I need a PC for long blocks of text.

[Morior]

I know ;) check the thread. I'm already there :P

[Morior]

When should I start the sign ups for mine? Like on the 24th or so?

[The Tommunist]

is there any chance of doing a normal mafia anytime at the end of the year? i've got a great TF2 themed idea

[LanceWarrior]

When should I start the sign ups for mine? Like on the 24th or so?

When one of the minis finishes - there's the three game limit to think about.

[Mozric]

Damn, now I'm only alive in one game. Hopefully when Tarion's ends we can get Morior's mini running quickly.

Should we start sign ups now or wait for a while? Up to you Morior.

[The Tommunist]

Damn, now I'm only alive in one game. Hopefully when Tarion's ends we can get Morior's mini running quickly.

Should we start sign ups now or wait for a while? Up to you Morior.


im looking for a replacement for gnomebane in my game. want to join?

[Morior]

Well personally sooner is better for me, I'll start my signups either when tarions finishes, or when it is just about to finish. Like the last day.

[Morior]

Should I start my signups soon?
Taking into consideration how long it took for toms game to fill up, If i start signing up now, there should be enough players to start on my estimated start date (30th)

[Subzero]

As has been said, signups should start when one of the currently-running games finishes. The timetable I posted earlier is just a rough guide. Currently it doesn't seem as if any of the games are too close to ending (Tarion's might take, say, 2 more Days and Nights). I'd wait until one of the games gets closer to ending before starting signups.

[Morior]

Okies will sit it out, I'm just getting impatient :P

[Novasry]

i Know how you feel Morior, i'm waiting to do a full and have two more games after trees to wait through... it's agonising

[Morior]

Treehuggers "Isn't life swell" game, thats a normal sized mafia isnt it? So it doesnt come into this list?

[Morior]

Ummm I've lost track of the mini mafia game numbers... What would mine be anyway? Number 17? Tarions is 14, was toms before tarions or not?

[Subzero]

Yours would be 17.

[Morior]

Righty, thats my game up and running now, taking signups:

Whats In The Mist? (http://40kforums.com/phpBB3/whats-in-the-mist-taking-sign-ups-t65259.html)

[The Tommunist]

got an idea for a mega-mafia if anyone wants to help me do one.

[Diagnosis Ninja]

Hmm... Me and Chris have been sat up for a fair few hours last night, and I think I've came up with a decent idea for "Metal Gear Mafia: Tactical Backstabbing Action" or something. Need to fine tune it a little, but once I have it planned, I might be wanting to run a normal mafia for about 18 people :D

[Morior]

Tom, I wouldnt suggest you run another game at all until you have ran a small one and managed to keep on top of that.
I think a big game for you would be a very big mistake

[LanceWarrior]

Tom, I wouldnt suggest you run another game at all until you have ran a small one and managed to keep on top of that.
I think a big game for you would be a very big mistake

I'm inclined to agree. You need more experience of Mafia games before you dive in at the deep end.

I myself will sign up to do another Mini Mafia as I know I shall have to wait some time. So I have plenty of time to think up and fine tune my ideas.

[Morior]

Still need 2 more preferably active players for my mini mafia: Whats In The Mist? (http://40kforums.com/phpBB3/whats-in-the-mist-taking-sign-ups-t65259.html). Which of course is based on Stephen Kings - The Mist.

[Treehugger]

Tom I dont want to be rude here but I have to agree with the others. You need more experience before jumping back in as a mod again, and certainly before running anything larger than a mini (much less a "mega" which i would assume would have more than 18 players and possibly couldnt be supported by the community anyways, its hard to fill up Normals as is).

Morior I would sign up but im wanting to take a small break from Mafia. Ive played and run alot of games in a row and im getting a bit burned out. So im going to skip a few and see if I get back into it. Im going to keep my name in the rotation as I assume after a little bit I will be itching to jump back in and play/mod again.

[Morior]

Well if anyone is interested, I'm now looking for a replacement for rifleman lizard in my game. He hasnt posted in more than 72 hours. I've sent him a reminder PM, which he has read and still hasnt posted.

We are currently still on day one and about 70hours until the first night phase. So anyone who replaces him now wont be missing out in the game.

[The Tommunist]

got an idea for a mega-mafia if anyone wants to help me do one.


mm. wrote that ages ago. since then alot has happened. i'm going to wait for a while. then see if i can have a game over christmass

[Tarion]

Mark me down for another mini. Got some thoughts going.

[Andon]

/me clears throat

I posted a while back about making a mini/small game. Still haven't seen my name appear on the list!

post1138704.html#p1138704 (http://40kforums.com/phpBB3/post1138704.html#p1138704)

[Zawicki]

I've had an idea for a mini, or slightly larger game. When would be the time for the next mini game to run? This would also be my first time modding one.

[Subzero]

Andon, you can start a game that size any time you like.

Zawicki, I'm really not sure what's going on with Mafia right now, as we seem to have a major shortage of players. I might try starting a Mini and running that (my Normal is kind of in a rut right now, what with it getting about 1 new signup per month at the moment...) to increase awareness again. You could run your game after mine, once we've balanced it.

[Morior]

If you could mark me back down on the list I have a few idea's. I realise it will be aaaages before mafias properly pick back up again but even so, pretty much have a storyline written up that follows the path of the 'saw' films, and another one that I've totally made up. Which probably would be better as it uses a bit more imagination and creativity on my part.

[Novasry]

Sub, any idea on when i will be able to run Hive Marius, or do we think big games are sort of dead now...

[Subzero]

If you want, I can help you cut it down to 16 players (about how many we've got now, plus a few new players). Then you can run it as a large whilst I run another mini, unless anyone else has a balanced mini (a few people do). In that case maybe we could run a large and 2 minis.

[Novasry]

If you want, I can help you cut it down to 16 players (about how many we've got now, plus a few new players). Then you can run it as a large whilst I run another mini, unless anyone else has a balanced mini (a few people do). In that case maybe we could run a large and 2 minis.
hmmm, would help if you have the original layout we discussed, since it was lost on my old PC

[Subzero]

That may be difficult. I have the general idea though, and I remember some of the role details.

[Novasry]

i remember most of it, will type up a new basic layout 2morro and PM it to you

[Enigmacookie]

Put me in line for another mini. No idea how long the waiting list is, but I reckon I'll be up around Mini no. 30 or something? (21 just finished)

[Subzero]

Actually, you're at the top of the Mini queue. I'm going to check with Tree, Doohicky and shot whether they still want to mod games, but you're free to go ahead.

EDIT: Tree hasn't been on the forum since October (and hasn't posted since September) and shot has said that he would like to play a few games first before running one again. I haven't heard back from Doohicky yet (although he hasn't been on since I sent the PM, which was a few hours ago). I've decided to downsize Ashbury Peaks III to 16 players. Nov, if you get in touch with me I'll help you balance your game whilst my Normal runs. EC, like I said you can go ahead with yours whenever you want. I'll stick to modding the Normal for now.

[Enigmacookie]

Sounds good, Sub. Expect a PM within a few days.

[Subzero]

Wait a moment...your game was 'The End'. You've already run it. However, neither Doohicky nor shot have expressed interest in running games and Tree hasn't been online for months, so the Mini queue is technically empty right now. In that case I'll put myself down for a game, and shot down for one as well (so he can run it after playing a few games, which is his intention).

[Kilroy]

I'll try for one as well.

[LanceWarrior]

I'm all for modding a mini - I has plans :twisted:

Although Sub - I wouldn't mind running them by you, just for the once over if you don't mind.

[The Tommunist]

if the List is still empty, I have an idea for one based of the forum called: who killed admin andy?

[Fahrenheit]

I'd like to go down on the list for running a game in the future please. I actually have nothing to do these days. It wouldnt actually be my first game either.

[Enigmacookie]

Okay, be ready for a new game in a week or so.
Sub, PMing you later today, for sure.

[Fahrenheit]

Okay, be ready for a new game in a week or so.
Who sorry? Is that for Kilroy or Lance?

[Enigmacookie]

my own. Afaik, I'm the next in line? At least according to sub, we've been discussing the roles a while.

I may of course, as always, be wrong :)

[Tarion]

Woah, shit. Looks like I'm the next real game.

:D

[Subzero]

All info noted. The next Mini is EC's, the next Normal is Tarion's. EC's game will probably be balanced over the next few days if not sooner so he'll be able to start his game soon.

[LanceWarrior]

All info noted. The next Mini is EC's, the next Normal is Tarion's. EC's game will probably be balanced over the next few days if not sooner so he'll be able to start his game soon.

Winter demandeth to be put down for both games - maybe, just maybe i'll start a finish a game for once :\

[The Tommunist]

I've written My game, (through it still needs balancing)! Help me get it balanced people!

[Subzero]

All info noted. The next Mini is EC's, the next Normal is Tarion's. EC's game will probably be balanced over the next few days if not sooner so he'll be able to start his game soon.

Winter demandeth to be put down for both games - maybe, just maybe i'll start a finish a game for once :\If he wants to play then the mods of each game might be willing to let him pre-/in - otherwise he'll have to sign up when the topics get posted.

[Kilroy]

I'm willing to take a normal or mini game... Whichever comes first.

[Subzero]

You're down third on the list for Normals, fourth for Minis.

[Treehugger]

Hey guys. I took a break from Mafia for a while now to give myself a bit of space. I got burned out on it. Since then I cant say that my interest has really returned. So you should take me off of the mod list. It is unlikely that I will run a game anytime in the foreseeable future.

[MalkThe2nd]

I've had an idea knocking around in my head for a very strange normal size game for a lil while now and I'd like to give modding a shot.

I've got a rough idea of what's balanced but I'll like someone to look over the role set/mechanics once I've worked out a few kinks in role interaction.

[Subzero]

I can take a look over it.

[MalkThe2nd]

It'll prolly be a while as I am so very lazy... but I should have a while before my name comes up anyways. :)

I'll pm you the file once I feel like it's near a final state.

[Tarion]

So, I'm up next for the regular game. Currently aiming for around 16 players - Anyone reckon the Mafia environment can support that right now? Am I aiming too low even?

I'm considering leaving it until the current Mini-Mafia finishes. We just seem very short on people nowadays.

I have the concept just about hammered out. There's a few things in need of tweaking, but apart from a few surprises it's going to be fairly standard.

[MalkThe2nd]

I sure hope so, as I'm writing out a 16-player game as well :P

Pretty sure that's around the highest we can go right now :( The last one with 20 spots got knocked down to 16 trying just to start.

I'll reserve a spot though for when ya get it all set up :P

[Subzero]

We've currently got enough for 15-16 players, but that includes people who don't post that much in games so you're probably looking at 11-12 active players.

[The Tommunist]

Whos running the next game, and think we should start up signups, current game looks like its ending.

[DeathForce]

from the list it looks like tarion has the next normal game and shot has the next mini game.

[shotcoder]

from the list it looks like tarion has the next normal game and shot has the next mini game.

I actually would like to remove myself. I had a wicked idea but I'm currently trying to balance the idea and keep running into the wall with balance issues. I'll put myself back on the list when its finished and balanced.

[ShadowSplicer57]

Omg Tarion, how long till the next game starts? lol

[ShadowSplicer57]

How long has it been since Tarion logged on? The wait for Mafia is killing me lol

EDIT: Well he's been on today. Sorry I'm just impatient after missing the two previous Mafia games by only a few hours lol

[DrakonTheNightLord]

If its okay with you lot I'm going to run a mafia game in the near future.

[ShadowSplicer57]

Please excuse my mighty feat of necromancy, but I think it's time this thread (or one like it) starts up again as Mafia seems to finally be getting back into the swing of things.

I might try my hand at Mafia Modding sometime in the near future, possibly over the Summer.

EDIT: Holy shit my earlier posts in this thread were stupid... Was I really that dumb?

[DrakonTheNightLord]

We all were, Shadow. Goddamn, I feel kinda old.

[Kilroy]

Indeed this thread has been rebooted. And give past you some credit, it was two years ago.

Perhaps we should start a new list for mafia GMing? Who wants first go after me?

[Loner]

Mind if I start one next?
I have had an idea, setting and the 'rules'.

If possible, I can start a recruiting thread and once your [Kilroy] game is done, I'll launch mine. :)

(and ofcourse if it's alright with ShadowSplicer.)

[ShadowSplicer57]

Of course! As I said, I'm planning on one around Summer, if not later, so it's open game right now.\

EDIT: Also, we should have a mod decide whether or not we need a new thread. Any mods around?

[DrakonTheNightLord]

In my opinion, we don't need this thread any more at all. I suggest we archive it. It's had a great long life, but imo, we don't really use it anymore.

[MalkThe2nd]

Re-adding myself to the list. I found my old file and this is going to be a weird one! Just got to hammer out the details and cut a few roles as a 16 player game is unlikely. If anyone is left out there with experience in mafia but doesn't plan on playing send me a PM! This will be my first game so any advice would be most welcome.

So we've got...

1. Kilroy (running)
2. Loner
3. Me
4. Shadow (summer)

[Loner]

If anyone is left out there with experience in mafia but doesn't plan on playing send me a PM! This will be my first game so any advice would be most welcome.


Same goes for me. I got the rules and everything, but if someone wants to glance it over, I would appriciate it. :)

[MalkThe2nd]

A pretty basic formula for a 12p is...

3x Mafia, (shared nightkill) 1 with Roleblock, or some kind of Immunity
1x Cop (any sanity)
1x Doctor
1x Vigilante or some other minor power

Along with several "lesser" powers and the rest basic innocents. If you give the town multiple investigators you need to balance that with crappy sanity for one or more members, and/or additional power to the mafia in the form of multiple powers or a 4th member.

What really gets tricky is trying to balance a true Cult, a Serial Killer, or multiple Mafia groups.

Themes are what makes the game so great. Pick an unusual role or two you want to play around with, then depending on how good they are, slightly increase the power of the other side. Take a look at several role sets from finished games (usually found in the death tally in OP) as a guide.

[ShadowSplicer57]

I'll go ahead and put myself forward for running one directly after Malk.