Vampire Counts 1k Friendly

[Ron]

I'm thinking about slowly building up a VC army relying heavily on Ghouls. What I was thinking of so far was:

Vampire(General) w/Ghoulkin, Summon Ghouls, The Flayed Hauberk, and Sword of Battle
180 Points

Vampire w/Avatar of Death, Summon Ghouls and Book of Arkhan
170 Points

13xCrypt Ghouls+Crypt Ghast
120 Points

13xCrypt Ghouls+Crypt Ghast
120 Points

Corpse Cart w/Unholy Lodestone
100 Points

Thats 630 Points so far, but nothing really that fast or hits that hard. I was thinking of getting a "Oh crap" unit that would support the core of the force here. Like some Cairn Wraiths+Banshee, a Varghulf, or maybe even a Black Coach(not sure about this since I want my PD to get more Ghoulies).

Anyone have any suggestions? Do I really need Zombies? Maybe not to buy as a unit, but to get from the "Raise Dead" spell?

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Can't beat em, join em eh?

I decided on Bretonnians.

[Ron]

Can't beat em, join em eh?

Meh, sort of. I just wanted an army that was different from my WoC so I could have the option of a change in pace. Lizards did not seem so appealing anymore for some reason.

I decided on Bretonnians.

Hurry up and get some models so I can actually beat you at something. Family is heading for OBX this Saturday for a week, so I'll be free that weekend and the Tuesday and Thursday of that week.

Anyway, back to list. Comments on changes in blue.

Vampire(General) w/Ghoulkin, Summon Ghouls, The Flayed Hauberk, and Sword of Battle
180 Points

Vampire w/Avatar of Death, Summon Ghouls and Book of Arkhan
170 Points

Necromancer w/Extra Necromancy Spell, Black Periapt
85 Points

Nice support wizard. Ensures another Danse spell and gains an extra PD or DD as needed.

9xCrypt Ghouls+Crypt Ghast
88 Points

9xCrypt Ghouls+Crypt Ghast
88 Points

Why pay for what I can summon?

20xSkeleton Warriors w/Spears, Full Command, Banner of Hellfire
210 Points

The Battalion box comes with them and they seem like a nice unit for Static CR. Banner is nice and cheap and great for surprising etheral/regen enemies. I'm not so sure about the cost though. It seems a little high.

Corpse Cart w/Unholy Lodestone
100 Points

Varghulf
175 Points

Fast, hits fairly hard, and is a vampire. It's also kind of fluffy for it to be in a Ghoul oriented army.

996 Points. Comments, anyone?

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

I think it looks dandy, Lodestone does what again?

I keep hearing Balefire is better.

[Ron]

If you have the models for a fantasy battle by then, you'll be faceing my WoC as I can't afford a Battalion until the stupid company actually pays me for babysitting.

As for the Lodestone it is not as good as Balefire(enemy wizards are at -1 to casting if with 24"), but it is some help to my plan of raising up Ghouls(Units within 6" that are hit by IoN get one more wound[except Vampire units]) and Balefire is rather OTT IMHO. 24" is too much.

[yWizePapaSmurfy]

Only have 9 Knights of Realm and a BSB on a Pegasus. <_<

[Ron]

Maybe we can have a tiny battle with my 2 Vamps, 19 Ghouls, and a Varghulf against your KotR and BSB.

[TheOtherWhiteMeat]

Anyway, back to list. Comments on changes in blue.

Vampire(General) w/Ghoulkin, Summon Ghouls, The Flayed Hauberk, and Sword of Battle
180 Points

Vampire w/Avatar of Death, Summon Ghouls and Book of Arkhan
170 Points

Necromancer w/Extra Necromancy Spell, Black Periapt
85 Points

Nice support wizard. Ensures another Danse spell and gains an extra PD or DD as needed.

9xCrypt Ghouls+Crypt Ghast
88 Points

9xCrypt Ghouls+Crypt Ghast
88 Points

Why pay for what I can summon?

20xSkeleton Warriors w/Spears, Full Command, Banner of Hellfire
210 Points

The Battalion box comes with them and they seem like a nice unit for Static CR. Banner is nice and cheap and great for surprising etheral/regen enemies. I'm not so sure about the cost though. It seems a little high.

Corpse Cart w/Unholy Lodestone
100 Points

Varghulf
175 Points

Fast, hits fairly hard, and is a vampire. It's also kind of fluffy for it to be in a Ghoul oriented army.

996 Points. Comments, anyone?

Looks good. Skeletons are a great addition at this pt. range, but I would go with a few more ghouls. If they get misplaced/blitzkrieg'd off the field, you're out a solid screen for your skeletons, allowing some serious damage if the opponent shot them down and can charge the skeletons with another unit. I liked the 1st list's arrangement of ghouls, but the 2 groups of 9 may allow for better skirmishing tactics (if that makes sense). Beyond that, the list looks nice. From here it's just trial and error 'til it works out.

[Ron]

I guess I could get a few Ghouls to start with so that they don't get slaughtered, but what to drop to get more points?

The Ghouls squads are actually 10 models now 9+Champ.