[1700][semi-Comp]Dark Eldar

[doc]

So this was the list I took to "West Coast Mayhem" (replacement for the GW Conflict) in Vancouver yesterday. Thoughts?

1700 Pts - Dark Eldar Roster - Unnamed

HQ: Dracon (9#, 364 Pts)
1 Dracon @ 364 Pts
Agonizer; Close Combat Weapon; Combat Drug Dispenser; Shadow Field; Plasma Grenades; Archangel of Pain; Mask of the Damned; Nightmare Doll
1 Retinue @ [216] Pts
2 Warriors @ [36] Pts
Splinter Cannon (x2)
4 Incubi @ [100] Pts
Tormentor Helm; Punisher (x4)
1 Raider @ [80] Pts
Disentegrator; Horrorfex; Nightshields

Elite: Mandrakes (5#, 75 Pts)
5 Mandrakes @ 75 Pts
Close Combat Weapon; Splinter Pistol

Elite: Wyches (10#, 254 Pts)
8 Wyches @ 254 Pts
Close Combat Weapon; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Blaster (x1); Shredder (x1); Combat Drugs; Plasma Grenades
1 Succubus @ [42] Pts
Agonizer; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Plasma Grenades (Squad)
1 Raider @ [85] Pts
Disentegrator; Horrorfex; Nightshields; Scaling Nets

Troops: Warrior Squad (18#, 164 Pts)
18 Warrior Squad @ 164 Pts
Splinter Rifle (x16); Splinter Cannon (x2)

Troops: Raider Squad (11#, 170 Pts)
10 Raider Squad @ 170 Pts
Blaster; Splinter Rifle (x8); Splinter Cannon; Raider
1 Raider @ [75] Pts
Dark Lance; Horrorfex; Nightshields

Troops: Raider Squad (11#, 170 Pts)
10 Raider Squad @ 170 Pts
Blaster; Splinter Rifle (x8); Splinter Cannon; Raider
1 Raider @ [75] Pts
Dark Lance; Horrorfex; Nightshields

Fast Attack: Reaver Jetbike Squad (4#, 120 Pts)
4 Reaver Jetbike Squad @ 120 Pts
Splinter Pistol; Blaster (x2); Splinter Rifle (x2); Combat Drugs; Reaver Jetbike

Fast Attack: Hellion (4#, 72 Pts)
4 Hellion @ 72 Pts
Combat Drugs; Hellglaive; Hellion Skyboard

: Warp Beasts (4#, 51 Pts)
3 Warp Beasts @ 51 Pts
Beastmaster
1 Beast master @ [15] Pts
Agonizer; Splinter Pistol

Heavy Support: Talos (1#, 100 Pts)
1 Talos @ 100 Pts
Talos Claw; Talos Sting

Heavy Support: Scourges (5#, 160 Pts)
5 Scourges @ 160 Pts
Splinter Rifle (x1); Splinter Cannon (x4)

Total Roster Cost: 1700

I'll tell you who I played and how I did later!

[elrohir123]

too many upgrades.
personally i dont like scourges i have wanted to try out with the 4 splinter cannon but never got round to it so tell me how it goes.
i don't like hellions.full stop.
mandrakes i have never used but are also on my lists of try it out.
i would make the jet bike squad only 3 large or nonexsistant.
strip ur raiders down so its a raider with dl or disintigrator nothing more.
make atleast one of the warrior squads a sniper squad as u lack anti tank.
take Archangel of Pain; Mask of the Damned; Nightmare Doll off ur lord

may i also suggest some other configs with ur lord.
sky board punisher torment helm shadow drug
jetbike power weapon drug torment helm shadow

or have a just incibi or just warrior rettinue as the splinter cannons will only fire once or twice in a game the incbi makes u lose fleet. i have seen what u have tried to do but im not to sure if it was worht the points. u have given me an idea to make a lord with no equip but warriors with heavy weapons for cheap heavy wepaons

[doc]

Ok... so he we are. The list was based on available models (and I'm a whore to WYSIWYG!) - this army was built in 2000 for the US GT circuit - it did rather well back then (8/17 wins, 2 ties) and took Best painted in Seattle, On second place and one 5th pace overall. No new additions since!
I've not played DE for about 5 years, but I thought for shits-and-giggles I'd bring them out this one time.
The list is also my idea of what DE should be if they did not suck!

West Coast Mayhem is a Canadian Hall of Heroes "premier" event - replacing the cancelled GW Conflict. The “7th-Gamers” organized the 40K tourney. They use unique scenarios for each table and a non-Swiss match up system (basically every one moves one table to the left!). The event is VERY Composition heavy - Cheese army list will win you nothing but games, and Best General is a combo of Comp' and Battle points!

They also have unique scenario-specific special rules, and the Aggressor list has DE a the top - so basically I was going to be the attacker is all games, and go first...

Game One - scenario was all about controlling the "woods" the defender got to infiltrate all his INFANTRY (non HQ/ELITE) in any wood he liked, but coming on as reserves, i.e. they stayed "hidden". I figured with my largish army I could deny most of the area terrain in 2 turns. There were about 8 pieces of terrain, and with the 1" push rule I could force the death of many troops - or force a stack in one or 2 pieces.
My opponent turns up - ah crap - the BA army we have all talked about, and dreaded seeing - 46 Jump pack marines, and 2 Baal Preds.
Well their went my battle plan.... need less to say we managed to play the full 2 hours but the jump pack guys ripped into my army on turn 2. The Incubi and Archon did well, the Scourges did their suicide jump; dropped in shredded a unit and then died in HtH. Mandrakes were AWESOME - 5 snuck up on the back of an HtH and bitch slapped the unit. Wyches acquitted themselves well against the DC - took one charge, lasted another round and then fled, forcing the DA into a much larger unit.
Sadly I did not take nearly enough to half or below – VICTORIOUS SLAUGHTER for the Blood Angels.

Game Two - this was a "Hold the Flag" objective - on the other side of the table. The secondary objective was for the Defender to have a FA unit die as his "Forlorn Hope", and for me to get within 6” of the BOTH flags.
Opponent was a Tyranid army! Oh great, no use for those Horrorfexes then (again - they did not get a chance to be used by against the BA in Game 1!). James (we play each other occasionally, but he is used to seeing my SW army), dutifully placed his winged warriors in front of me and I shredded then with 16 Splinter cannon shots as my opening fusillade.
We spent a lot of time exchanging shots, which I generally got the better of in the first 2 turns. HtH was pretty awesome at first – my wyches, again, carved through so many bugs (Warriors) I lost count. The mandrakes tied up a Zoanthrope and 2 Warriors for 2 turns (good job!). A turning point was in Turn 3 when James had to make a 6+ save for a zoanthrope – he made it (the only bloody one of the game…), so I had to use my last Disintegrator shot to kill that one, and not target a unit of Warriors. The Carnifex (that had regenerated 3 wounds…) and the last 3 genestealers (that had ripped my HQ apart) got to my lines and chewed through the Warrior squad. Kind of left me shredded.
CRUSHING VICTORY for the bugs. I failed to make my secondary, but of course James made his (like I was going to leave 4 warriors on my front step!)

Games Three – straight up fight, with a twist – destroyed units are worth HALF VPS, hills (8 of them, worth 100 VPs each, small hills (6) worth 25 VPs if controlled at the end of the game. I have a potential ELEVEN scoring units!
My opponent – Death Guard (current Codex) – great – no bloody use of the Horrorfex again! Battle was pretty dull – he got REALLY annoying on turn 2/3 when my S3 splinter pistols and guns were dropping his T5 plague Marines… I immobilized he Dread, too out most of his HQ, mashed the Daemon Prince and popped the Defiler… at the end of the game I held one more major hills and 2 less minor ones (we only got to turn 3).
TIED game – will I EVER get the one win I aspire to at each tourney??

Game Four. “Fog O War” – modified Night Fight rules (1d6 x4”) –YAY I get to use the night shields (with effect) this game! Straight up fight, with secondary objective of getting 10 models off the other board edge. Opponent was Death guard – again (I played 2 of the 4 there), so no using my Horrofexes – ::sigh::
This game was FUN. He could do little shooting; the Night shields saved ALL my vehicles, and the HtH units did their job; mostly. In the end the appearance of the lesser daemons, the greater daemon and the terminators (OMG that new DS rule for them is awesome – for them, not me!) turned the tide. I did make my secondary, when is defiler decided to fleet towards one unit that was heading off and rolled a 1 – he needed 3” to get into HtH! He was one model short for his secondary.
CRUSHING VICTORY for Death Guard.

So no wins, one tie, 3 losses… who cares! I had a goob army - and I knew it! I scored well on Painting, perfect Composition and well on Sportsmanship – so well in fact I WON Best Sportsman. Don’t know my overall ranking but I’ll find out soon. Again, I don’t really care, it was a great FUN day of playing with TOY SOLDIERS.

[shotcoder]

I'm sorry doc but he was just trying to help, you didnt say this was based off of available models so how was he to know?

I'm glad to see you had some fun games, I hope to have some too when my DE eldar is finally complete.

[doc]

Did not slam his post, did I?
I'm not sure what the "too many" upgrades is anyway - yeah sure I went a bit over board with the Archon wargear, but she does just come in her underwear
The nightshield is pretty much a must with AV10 open topped... But every one was in range anyway.
And horrorfex is just too cool (when you get to use it!) NOT to take it!

[Spam-Robot]

Hmm, I was going to comment, but I realized this was "Semi-Comp", and looked like a fun list to play, so I left you too it. If you ever post a true Competitive list, then I will be sure to give you some feedback.