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    What really grinds your gears? The Pet Peeves Thread

    So a conversation on chat got me thinking, what about this hobby really grinds your gears?

    For me personally, I hate people tutting over my lists due to the fact they are not competetive.
    One thing that really irritates me are the people who say I'm on the bandwagon for playing Spacewolves, despite playing them for nearly 11 years now

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    Originally Posted by Thatfatguy View Post
    So a conversation on chat got me thinking, what about this hobby really grinds your gears?

    For me personally, I hate people tutting over my lists due to the fact they are not competetive.
    One thing that really irritates me are the people who say I'm on the bandwagon for playing Spacewolves, despite playing them for nearly 11 years now
    This. And GW's main problem of not knowing any other way to keep people interested other than WAAAAAAGHs. I'm not an ork, damn it. I have spess muhreenz!

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    Kids. Generally just kids. Everything they do really annoys me. They're good for the hobby and all, but they constantly pester you with annoying questions, constantly touch and pick up your models while they're in play, and place down blobs of blue plastic to play with, because they use so much glue and paint you can't see any detail.

    If the above post comes off with a negative tone, you're reading it wrong.
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    Children, certainly.

    Models being overpriced, a bit.

    Horrible update schedule - FINISH everything before going on to something else. (Especially new editions)

    Ignoring fluff for sake of selling new stuff (IE, EVERYTHING NEW that Space Marines have had in the past several codexes). Creating unneeded new armies just to sell stuff (You don't need that many different SM books. It's just... stupid.)

    I could go on, but I really like my keyboard. It'd break before I was finished.

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    Sore losers. If I feel I have to deliberately lose to someone in order to not make the rest of the evening pissy, something is wrong wrong wrong.
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    As I have said before in threads like this... Its not so much the slowness of codex release that gets me, but rather reading a new FAQ/Errata when they finally come, and having it fall way short of what needs to be fixed, changed, updated, or clarified... Every... Frikkin... Time!

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    That and players who think their army is an extension of their... Well... You know.

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    No models for things in your codex. "Oh this model looks awesome, Ill take a squad of them for my army...wait, they dont sell a model for it?"

    Im fine with encouraging people to convert stuff, but some of us dont have the time, patience, skill, or desire to do so. Thank god I found someone selling 10 bad ass converted thunder wolf calvary...

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    1. When people ask to see your list, and then check your rulebook to ENSURE that you have added up all of the points correctly and not given your units things they can't take.

    2. When people think of our independent game store as a baby sitter. (No GW's in colorado)

    3. People with REALLY dumb conversions, I.E space marines with flowers and glitter on them..

    4. Sore losers for sure. I played a game when I was 16 against a IG player, he only brought 500 points for some reason. I won, he was in denial that 5 mega nobz was 200 points. Guess my codex was 'wrong'.

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    How every Codex is "zomg, it's teh borken!!1111!" before it's even out.

    How I can create a list I like using and apparently it's "not competitive" or "not ideal". My usual response is along the lines of "Yup, and I like it that way". I care not one iota for the "biggest baddest hotlist" going, I really really couldn't. Any list based on what people enjoy is the best list possible. After all, it's their army.

    People (generally kids) telling me "Wow, Grey Knights (example) are amazing, they're like, armed with Force Weapons and Storm Bolters, and have psychic powers and all that stuff!" Yes. I know. I've been playing them since before you even knew this hobby existed.

    I also do not care for the fact that you can give your Chaos Marines a 5+ inv save. They'll still die to massed Dire Avenger fire, and I welcome their 5+ inv save. Means each casualty costs you more for no extra effort on my part. Just tell me their Mark and lets roll some dice.

    People who turn up with a 2103 point list (yes, that's happened), and then have a strop when an insistence of 2000 was put down.

    Sore losers/bad winners.

    Slow learners. And when I say slow learners, I mean people who make the same mistake again and again and again and again and again and again ... without getting the idea that maybe they shouldn't assault with a Dev squad and stand and shoot with an Assault Squad.

    People wandering off without telling me during a game. Sure, use the loo, get a drink, whatever: if you're going to be gone for enough time for me to make a cup of tea, have the decency to let me know.

    Do. Not. Touch. My. Models. Looky looky, no touchy touchy. If you've any sense in your feeble mind whatsoever, ask if you want a closer look, or get down to it's level. And even then, hold it by the base.

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    Originally Posted by edmundblack View Post
    Slow learners. And when I say slow learners, I mean people who make the same mistake again and again and again and again and again and again ... without getting the idea that maybe they shouldn't assault with a Dev squad and stand and shoot with an Assault Squad.
    I'm so with you there on this one.

    It's never their fault, always "the opponents cheesy codex" - example last night - Monster nids vs Dark Eldar, it was a sad sight to see my nid friend cry cheese as he ran his T6 towards mass poison shots and the 3+ poison character :/

    He's a nice guy but with tactical sense of a nat........

    I just want to cry "it's not cheese, you made x/y/z mistakes over and over!"

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    Hrm.. some of mine...

    * People unwilling to try something outside of the rules on occasion (i.e., homebrew rules, etc).

    * People asking can they have a look at your model then touch it... (Answer's became 'don't touch' as default )

    * Those that don't concentrate when it's not their turn (i.e., the only person I vs plays his DS when it's not hsi turn. Then when I say it's his turn he's like "WTF?!").

    * People that don't even know their codex.

    * Sore losers / bad winners

    * Price hikes

    * Not updating all codices before new edition

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    Originally Posted by MC Tic Tac View Post
    It's never their fault, always "the opponents cheesy codex" - example last night - Monster nids vs Dark Eldar, it was a sad sight to see my nid friend cry cheese as he ran his T6 towards mass poison shots and the 3+ poison character
    As a last resort, I heartily condone such tactics. If you're gonna die, do it in style. Otherwise, no. Just no.

    And yes to the price hikes: enough already.

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    People watching other people play and giving their input when they clearly have NO idea what they're talking about. A guy asked my why wasnt i firing my "second gun" with the trygon prime... he kept saying the trygon prime gets the assault12 shot and the assault6 shot that the regular trygon gets... I just looked at my opponent, rolled my eyes and shook my head lol.

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    Originally Posted by Thatfatguy View Post
    One thing that really irritates me are the people who say I'm on the bandwagon for playing Spacewolves, despite playing them for nearly 11 years now
    ahahahahahahaha.. i whined about bandwagoning... so it was probably me that made you feel like you were being picked on for 'bandwagoning' but seriously.. 11 years!!! thats epic time for a single army... ive had my orks for 8... but they are a swarm so took me the first 6 to get enough models for a good range.

    But as for MY gear grinders.

    all of the below... well nearly all of them.. the kids one is ok as long as they arent asking a billion questions while im trying to play a game.... and the marines one... the differences in the 'special' marines codexes (BA, SW, DA, BT) make them alright in my book... being able to personalise the feel of marines is something i reckon is important for the gamers out there who are into the background just as much as killing itself.

    umm....proxy models... sure i dont mind a few, if youre a thunderwolf short and have a spare model on a base the right size, go nuts... but if you are proxying 2x30 squads of gaunts with ork models... that starts to annoy me...

    but to tell you the truth... the one thing that makes my blood boil more than anything else in the entire GW world is myself... ive run guard and orks since time immemorial... well for the last 8 years anyway... tried daemonhunters there for a while but didnt like that every GK in PA was posed almost exactly the same so gave it up... and anyone who knows the codexs will know that guard and orks have a save of 5 and 6+ respectively... the boiling point comes from my inherent weakness now for a MeQ list... tried space wolves... loved it.. tried Blood Angels, loved it.. tried Dark Angels, still loved it... and now i hate my weakness for MeQ anything.. i want marine army for anything... mayhaps its time to get the GK terminators off my pile of uni stuff (gotta love paperweights)

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    I get annoyed when people claim I bandwagon, there are some loyalists out there :p

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    Originally Posted by Thatfatguy View Post
    I get annoyed when people claim I bandwagon, there are some loyalists out there :p
    i have been loyal to my orks for nearly a decade now... so i get where youre coming from... i have a friend though that has changed his army every time a new codex has come out... never bought new models, just porxied CSM for everything...

    and now i might be loyal to the imperium once more... orks are fun... but i have enough now... no more ork models to get

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    *People who call me cheesy when their tactical blunders lose them the game. I played a SW player who threw down a LR full of Termies in 1500, but then would not advance with it while I plinked away at it with Bolt of Tzeentch(I was running my Fateweaver, 6x Flamers, 30 Horrors, and 2 DPs list). He was complaining so vehemently afterwards that I just straight up told him that the first thing he needed to do was run Fateweaver over with his LR and have the Termies stomp on the remains and the rest of my army would have disintegrated.

    *People who won't tell me what does(or has) what. This is pretty rare, but I have people try to do this to me in the past. I'm sorry guys, we're not playing Fantasy at this time.

    *Megabattles with too many players. I know it's really hard to run these sort of things, but it really gets way out of hand if you have more than 4 players per side.

    *Sore losers. My dice usually hate me. So when my dice are actually on fire for once, don't ruin it. A little smack talk for giggles is fine(I do it too, but usually toward my own models/dice and only against people I know), but I don't really appreciate people seriously cussing me out.

    *People who treat me like a rule-lawyering power-gamer whenever I point out an obscure rule(whether from the main book or a codex) that benefits me. I do this for my opponent benefit too(when it comes up). Just play by the rules, please. If I've proven to you that a rule exists, don't be a jerk about it.

    *It might seem silly, but don't take a dump on my brainchildren all the time. If I've named my unit/model something, or converted(or painted) it in a certain way, constructive criticism is fine(welcomed even), but don't just tell me [you think] it sucks. In a doubles tournie I(with my Tyranids) was teamed up with a Dark Eldar player and came up the team name, "Hey, Stop playing with my food!" My Teammate thought it was funny too(shows how serious we were of winning the tournie. ) and we went with it, but people kept telling us how dumb our team name was. Jerks.

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    My single biggest gripe is proxies. Especially if you know the person owns the models and has for months but still shows up with empty bases to represent all of their troop choices. It's a visual game. If you just want to number crunch and roll dice, get yourself a sheet of hex paper and some d6s and go sit in a corner.

    Minor gripes are sore losers, sore winners, and random bystanders interjecting strategic advice (although I'm fine with someone helping out a newer player... hell, I help out my opponent if they're fairly new to the game.)

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    Originally Posted by Mutt View Post
    My single biggest gripe is proxies. Especially if you know the person owns the models and has for months but still shows up with empty bases to represent all of their troop choices. It's a visual game. If you just want to number crunch and roll dice, get yourself a sheet of hex paper and some d6s and go sit in a corner.

    Minor gripes are sore losers, sore winners, and random bystanders interjecting strategic advice (although I'm fine with someone helping out a newer player... hell, I help out my opponent if they're fairly new to the game.)
    Yeah I'm generally against proxies. The only time I used proxies is when I picked up 2x venomthropes on a friday night and had a game saturday afternoon and I had a HELL of a time putting them together, so my buddy let me use my necron wraiths. Otherwise, if you don't own it, don't field it. Like for my necrons, I bought 10x immortals. Then I see other necron players who change the green gauss to a blue or something and say "Those are my immortals"

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