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    My stuff.

    I came up with this idea for a special character of my own design. I believe the story is a-okay when it comes to fluff. If something is wrong, please tell me and I will edit it.

    The character was, at one point, a Grey Knight Brotherhood Champion. He had been charged with protecting the Brother-Captain leading a purging force. During the campaign, Tyrus, the Champion, fought a Daemon Prince named Koength. At the end of the fight, Tyrus banished Koength. To gain revenge for his defeat, Koength sent out his minion, Maerus, with the warp-blade Soulcleaver, splinting a portion of Koengths essence into the blade. Maerus confronted Tyrus, and the two dueled. In the end, Tyrus was victorious, but Maerus managed to use the last of his strength in the material plane to thrust the blade into Tyrus' chest when his back was turned. The blow killed Tyrus, and sucked in his soul, making it impossible for Tyrus to return to the Emperor. A quick counter-attack by the forces of Chaos meant that Tyrus' body fell into the hands of Koength's followers. He had them place the body deep in the bowels of a great mausoleum in the planets capital.

    For two centuries, Koength worked to be ready to break through back into the material plane when the effects of his banishment ended with Tyrus' soul. For two thousand years, Koength waited in his damnation, until the wards were finally broken. Maerus had a band of Alpha Legion assist in the summoning of the Prince, allowing him to return. When he burst through, he tore an enormous hole in realspace, unleashing thousands of daemons. The people of the world knew what this meant. Koength had returned.

    So too did the Grey Knights and the worlds local Space Marine chapter. A force was dispatched to put Koength back in his place. Knowing his time would be short, Koength enacted his plan quickly. He had Maerus head the counter-attack against the Imperial forces. As the Grey Knights landed, Koegnth wrenched Soulcleaver from Tyrus' body. He then decided to make a move to prevent ever going back to that eternal hell of warpspace. He transferred his own soul into the soulless, dead body of Tyrus.

    When the Grey Knights charged into the city, Koength burst from the tomb. He smashed aside the Imperial forces, retreating deep into the countryside. For months, he was tracked down, before Koength ambushed the forces and disappeared, leaving the Imperials to only track him back down, with the cycle repeating several times. When he finally was able to make his escape, he launched himself into space, his great wings carrying him through the atmosphere. The lack of oxygen was of no problem to him, as he needed none of it. All he needed was more souls.

    So he carries on his eternal feast. He strikes hard and fast, sometimes with others, sometimes not. Maerus is eternal servant, and he only lives now to reap the souls of the living. He is known by many names, but the one given by those he once protected has become whispered as an omen of genocide; Tyrus Koength, The Black Knight.

    So, yeah. That's his background. I do not have the parts for him, nor will I for a bit. At least until a bit after Christmas, although it is barely likely I may potentially have some after Saint Nick's (December 6th). Otherwise, I have one more thing I need cleared up besides the fluff: His stat line. My buddy, who hasn't played any full games of 40k yet, but will be collecting Grey Knights soon, says he is a tad bit (to understate it) overpowered. I was hoping you guys could help clear it up and assist me with his stat line and special rules. So, without further ado, here it is:
    PTS:450
    WS:7
    BS:5
    S:6(7)
    T:5
    W:4
    I:6
    A:5*
    Ld.:10
    Sv:3+
    Wargear: Power Armor, Frag and Krak grenades, Warp Grenades, Soulcleaver, Banner of Koength, Familiar, Wings
    Psychic Powers: Doombolt, Wind of Chaos
    Unit Type: Jump Infantry
    SPECIAL RULES

    Fearless, 4+ Invulnerable Save, Unique Character
    • Essence of Koength: Tyrus is immune to Instant Death. He may never enter a transport. When Tyrus attacks a vehicle, treat him as a Monstrous Creature.
    • Soulcleaver: Soulcleaver is a Power Weapon. It adds +1 to Tyrus' Strength, and gives him +D3 attacks. If he rolls a 1 when seeing how many attacks he gets, Tyrus wounds himself and does not attack that turn (Tyrus' soul gains control of the weapon and directs it at Koength, in what little time until Koength regains control).
    • Warp Grenades: When Tyrus is charged, the charging unit does not gain any Initiative bonuses for grenades.
    • Banner of Koength: This counts as a Personal Icon (see page 81 of the Chaos Space Marine Codex). In addition, re-roll any dice that miss from a shooting attack. On a 5+, they hit the unit which fired them.
    • Soulhunger: Tyrus must assault an enemy unit if it is within range. He can never contest nor hold an objective, unless he is in close combat with the enemy unit controlling it, and no other enemy units would be able to control it.
    If you would like to suggest changes, please do. Though hopefully not TOO much stat-wise. He looks okay in that perspective, in my opinion. In truth, his stat line is just the Daemon Prince, with +1 Initiative and Attack, along with his 4+ inv. save versus 5+ for the normal Prince. All three of these, though, can be accomplished with various marks.

    So, yeah. That's Tyrus Koength, The Black Knight. Hopefully I'll have some stuff up soon enough. Sorry 'bout that part...

    EDIT ALPHA: Removed damage from Warp Grenades. Changed Warptime to Wind of Chaos. Added that Soulcleaver trapped Tyrus' soul inside of it.

    EDIT BRAVO: Gave him Soulhunger special rule. Made him independent character. Fixed bio a bit.

    EDIT CHARLIE: Removed Ignoring Inv. Saves with Soulcleaver. Simplified hurting himself to Daemon Weapon
    style.

    EDIT DELTA: Changed IC to UC, adjusted Essence special rule.

    EDIT ECHO: Added Spirit of Tyrus special rule.

    EDIT FOXTROT: Removed Spirit of Tyrus special rule.

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    Spoiler


    These are the parts I would like to use.
    (Sorry, the picture's a "little" big.)
    KEY:
    Definitely
    Choosing (Front body)
    Light blue: Maybe (Left arm)
    Choosing (left arm)
    Purple: Soulcleaver weapon
    Orange: Shield
    Green: Shoulder Pads
    Pink: Banner
    (Some of the [color.] tags weren't working. DAMN YOU, HTML!)
    The check marks are the parts I like the best.

    Now, you may wonder why I have two checks for the swords, or what those green arrows and dotted lines mean. Well, I really like the hilt for the longer sword, but I like the one-sided blade of the shorter sword. Not really sure how I should approach this. My main thought is to take off the blade on the longer sword. I would then take the blades from he shorter swords, and cut them down so that they will form one long blade, which will then be attached to the hilt from the longer sword.

    Not sure if I should use a Termie sized base, a Standard Base, or a Daemon Prince base. If I do do a standard base, my main concern is if the weight of the wings will cause it to tip over. That's why I'm thinking of using a Termie or bigger base rather than the standard infantry one.

    I'll be using the Basing kit and Razor wire for, well, his base. The Green Stuff will be used to cover up 'issues' the kits have with each other. Maybe some modeling, but probably not.


    EDIT EINS: BIG F*CKING WINGS. The wings I selected, if you couldn't tell, are from the Daemon Prince sprue. All the other parts are from either the Grey Knights or Possessed sprues. To be acurate, the front body and left arm will be from the Possessed sprue, while the right arm, Soulcleaver, backpack, back of the body, and head will be from the Grey Knights sprue. The banner will most likely come from the Grey Knight Terminator sprue, and I'm not sure where the familiar will come from. Despite the cuteness of the one on the Terminator Lords sprue, I don't exactly like it and prefer making my own. For a Sorcerer I have, his Familiar is a converted Necron Scarab with some chains from the Chaos Space Marine kit attached.

    EDIT ZWEI: Apparently, all these kits would cost me a total of $217.25, or, for those of you in the U of K, ≈₤139.21. Quite a chunk, especially seeing as winter is setting in and I am not legally old enough to get a job yet (I'm only 14). So, no lawns to mow. At least Christmas is soon!

    EDIT DREI: Now, I also have to consider posing. I think that it would be quite interesting to have him holding the limp body of a dead Space Marine/Grey Knight in his hand, though, god, the conversion work. Possibly him simply striding through the battlefield, or possibly killing a Space Marine/Grey Knight. I always seem to want something dead, don't I...
    Though, its unlikely it will turn out like I really hope for it to. Meh, what happens happens.

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    Cool background! One thing i would just add to it is to say that the blade trapped Tyrus' soul at the time of death, preventing it from travelling to the emperor. I had to read the background a few times before i figured out what was going on.

    Rules wise, it seems ok other that soul cleaver's rule about ignoring invulnrable saves. Coupled with warptime that guy becomes, IMO overpowered even for 450pts. The warp grenades also seem a little overpowered. I'd just make them defensive grenades with the initiative penalty if you want them to be special. Inflicting wounds before the combat happens to me is a little broken.

    Other than those points, i'd certainly give you a game!

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    Originally Posted by Wicksy View Post
    Cool background! One thing i would just add to it is to say that the blade trapped Tyrus' soul at the time of death, preventing it from travelling to the emperor. I had to read the background a few times before i figured out what was going on.

    Rules wise, it seems ok other that soul cleaver's rule about ignoring invulnrable saves. Coupled with warptime that guy becomes, IMO overpowered even for 450pts. The warp grenades also seem a little overpowered. I'd just make them defensive grenades with the initiative penalty if you want them to be special. Inflicting wounds before the combat happens to me is a little broken.

    Other than those points, i'd certainly give you a game!
    Thanks for the help! I don't know everything about the Grey Knight background, so I didn't know that whole about that whole travel-to-emperor thing. Thanks!

    I also changed the OP. Though, you said that Soulcleaver's ignoring Inv. Saves COUPLED with Warptime was Over powered. If I just leave the ignoring INv. saves, is he less. Also, what do you think I meant by what I said. Not being derogatory, just want to know what the rules come off as saying.

    He has a shield (the 4+ inv. save), and at one point earlier today, it allowed him to take any failed to-wound rolls against him and roll them. On a 5+ they inflicted an unsaveable wound on the attacker. In his first iteration, his single downside was that he had a chance of hurting himself, and that was quite the small chance.

    Also, you said a few parts were confusing. Could you tell me what? I would like to make the background as understandable as possible, just like those for real characters published in the books.

    EDIT: In truth, I know basically nothing, except that they are incorruptible, all are psykers, and Brotherhood Champions protect Brother-Captains. That's pretty much it.

    ... Inflicting wounds before the combat happens to me is a little broken.
    So, the shooting phase and Assault weapons are broken? /joke

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    RANDOM THOUGHT! (There'll be plenty of these, as I have a feeling this will become my blog)

    For some reason, if he had a theme song, I think this would have to be it;

    Not the actual song, like with the choir, but just the piano version.

    Maybe this one, too:


    Or this, also:


    Or this:


    Infact, if someone thinks they have a better theme for him, please show it. I would love a theme for when I set him up to knock the enemy down (see what I did thar?).

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    The edit to the story reads a lot better now. Much easier to follow.

    Yeah, i'd just take out the ignoring inv. saves part. Also just re-read the rules for the extra attacks. Rather harsh to the demon. Perhaps have +d3 attacks but like a demon sword a roll of a one causes the sword to wound the bearer? It tidies up the rules and makes it a little easier to read and understand. With the way you've written the rules, i had to re and re-read the sentences a few times to get the gist of what was said. I must have been tired last night and been in grammar nazi mode Sorry. I think you're pretty much there. The background would make a cool campaign with demonic, chaos space marines, grey knights and space marines all trying to get thw sword. The good guys want to destroy it and relase the soul trapped within while the bad guys want to harness it's power for evil.

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    Originally Posted by Wicksy View Post
    The edit to the story reads a lot better now. Much easier to follow.

    Yeah, i'd just take out the ignoring inv. saves part. Also just re-read the rules for the extra attacks. Rather harsh to the demon. Perhaps have +d3 attacks but like a demon sword a roll of a one causes the sword to wound the bearer? It tidies up the rules and makes it a little easier to read and understand. With the way you've written the rules, i had to re and re-read the sentences a few times to get the gist of what was said. I must have been tired last night and been in grammar nazi mode Sorry. I think you're pretty much there. The background would make a cool campaign with demonic, chaos space marines, grey knights and space marines all trying to get thw sword. The good guys want to destroy it and relase the soul trapped within while the bad guys want to harness it's power for evil.
    Thanks. I definitely needed help with streamlining everything, so that a quick read through makes it understandable. I remember in older editions, some of the characters rules had to be read, re-read, and double checked before you could be really sure of what it said.

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    This blog hath been devoid of images too long. Well, I say! No longer!

    Anyway, yeah, pic time!

    These are my Rescue Objective Markers


    My Loot Objective Markers


    Some Terrain. A few are still WIP, but the first is finished.




    I believe I referenced my Sorcerer. Well, here he is! He is obviously unfinished, as he is missing his legs. I cut up the Terminator Lord Force Weapon quite a bit for his Force Weapon. The 'Bolt Pistol' is actually a Bolt Pistol arm, a Bolter, a random Bayonet from the CSM sprue, and the Heavy Bolter belt. The final image is his familiar and some other bits.




    Sorry about the bluryness, my camera was purchased by my brother when he was over in China. I think there's a better camera, but I haven't been able to find it yet.

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    RANDOM THOUGHT!
    Okay, so I have this little issue where, if I come up with a character or chapter or something, I usually start a backstory for it, even if I never meant to make one. So, I would like to ask you what character you would rather hear a bit more about, or if you don't want to hear anything more. If there were a vote/poll option, that would be nice (*wink wink*), but sadly there is none. So, for now, I think the only thing that could be done was post a response.

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    Couldn't quite tell which swords you were referring to, but aside from that, if you want to make this guy badass, how about this....take both swords and join them at the hilt so that it's bladed on both sides of the hilt?

    ------|----|--------
    blade hilt blade

    -Grishnaar

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    This one. There are a few of these on the frame, so I could build a longer sword with them hopefully.
    But, for your idea, kind of like darth mauls lightsabre?
    Also: I'm thinking of letting the voting go on until the end of this week, unless there aren't enough votes to make a good decision.

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    One thing you might look at to keep him from being overpowered... if you need a way to balance him out a bit... make him a unique character, but not an IC... that way he can't join any units.

    it can be a nice balancing ploy... look at Mephiston for Blood Angels... I thought of him as I read above... absolute CC monster, but no invul save and can't have any kind of retinue attachment, which provides a weakness for opposing players to try and exploit...

    This might even allow you to reduce his points cost a bit if that becomes a concern?

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    Well, he does have a special rule which does that. Should I just remove that little bit and add Unique Character?

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    My bad, apparently I missed that part... I noticed the IC addition and it brought up my recommendation.

    I think this guy would be fun to play against...

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    Though, I probably should do that, so that it isn't missed.

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    I just looked at my 40k project list. Yeah...
    LOTS of work:
    1. Work on Tyrus: get parts; assembly; painting.
    2. Start Space Marines: get book, models; assembly; painting.
    3. Finish Chaos Army: get models; assembly; painting.
    4. Possibly make Super-tank: get parts; assembly; painting.

    Thats quite a bit. I also wanted to experiment with making Nurgle Marines and building a large Imperial building, most likely a Cathedral, alongside making several Chaos lords and Sorcerers for Tyrus.

    Also, after I finish my main Chaos Army, I'm planning on starting two or three others with the same scheme and whatnot for Planet Strike (both attackers and defenders) and Cities of Death. Oh, yeah, and that attacking army will have around 40-50 Termies. *Sarcastic and unenthusiastic Woo*

    Something I'm more enthusiastic about: I came up with stats and rules for Maerus, and the backstory is soon to be ready. I will be posting that up soon hopefully. Anyone else enthusiastic?

    Oh yeah, and I'll be testing out a new camera for taking pics of my Chaos Marines.


    Random little thing:
    I was sitting at my computer, and I my mind had begun to wander off, then this started and it scared the sh*t out of me.

    B-E-A-Utiful song though.

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    I just have a quickee question for those who can answer:
    Why can't I get the Vallhallan models, or any other collectors models, into a wish list?

    Any help would be appreciated.

    If ever a game were art, it would be Bioshock.
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    I am going to be starting Marines soonly, hopefully getting some models for my birthday. I'm just wondering, though, which Codex should I go with for a melee army, excluding Grey Knights and Chaos, just for specification. Possibly rate things like flexibility of strategy/units, how good their melee units are stat- and equipment-wise, etc.

    If ever a game were art, it would be Bioshock.
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    Check out Space Wolves, Black Templar and Blood Angels

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