Would this be a good 2k army?

[nephlim667]

HQ
Big Mek (Burna, KFF)
WarBoss (Attack Squig, Cybork Body, PK, Warbike)

Elites
Nob X4 (Cybork Body, PK, Warbike, 1x Waagh Banner)
Painboy with the Nobz

Troops
Deff Dread (Armor Plates, Grot Riggers, 2X DCCW)
30 x Shootas
30 X choppas (1 Nob with PK)
30 X choppas (1 Nob with PK)

Fast Attack
1 Deffkpta (Buzzsaw, twin-linked rockets)
1 Deffkpta (Buzzsaw, twin-linked rockets)
1 Deffkpta (Buzzsaw, twin-linked rockets)

Heavy Support
3 X Killa Kans (Grotzooka)
3 X Killa Kans ( Rokkit Launcher)
3 X Killa Kans ( KMB)

Do you think this would do ok or do you think I'd be eaten alive?

Thank you much, I'm still in the process of building my army and want to get an idea of what I should buy...I have most of these already.

[nephlim667]

A side question to go with this list....If I have Nob warbikers do they get the 4+ cover save that normal warbikers do? Sorry if that is a dumb question I'm new and still trying to figure this all out....

[Angelofblades]

It looks like a good start, I do have to say however that I have faced many lists like this and they all have a major flaw that alot of players succumb to, and that's part of the army (the biker part) often get's away from the main force. This is a pitfall of the army, because anyone can tell you what happens when 1/4 of your army faces the entire enemy army alone...

HQ
Big Mek (Burna, KFF)

Burna not necessary, this guy isn't supposed to get into CC, hang him back and keep that KFF alive

WarBoss (Attack Squig, Cybork Body, PK, Warbike)

Elites
Nob X4 (Cybork Body, PK, Warbike, 1x Waagh Banner)
Painboy with the Nobz

I would suggest diversifying the squad abit more, and maybe add another biker nob, need more pklaws in there too

Troops
Deff Dread (Armor Plates, Grot Riggers, 2X DCCW)
30 x Shootas
30 X choppas (1 Nob with PK)
30 X choppas (1 Nob with PK)

Bosspoles on them? It should be a staple, I think that skipping out on the pk/ bosspole nob on the 1st squad is a bad idea, maybe you don't need 30 boys, how about 25 to make room for the upgrades?

Fast Attack
1 Deffkpta (Buzzsaw, twin-linked rockets)
1 Deffkpta (Buzzsaw, twin-linked rockets)
1 Deffkpta (Buzzsaw, twin-linked rockets)

I've never found these guys as useful, maybe drop them for the upgrades needed on the shoota boy nobs or the extra nob biker and kits

Heavy Support
3 X Killa Kans (Grotzooka)
3 X Killa Kans ( Rokkit Launcher)
3 X Killa Kans ( KMB)

Do you think this would do ok or do you think I'd be eaten alive?

Thank you much, I'm still in the process of building my army and want to get an idea of what I should buy...I have most of these already.

Like I said before, good start to a green horde, just fine tune it. Try to not fall into the trap of letting the warbikers run rampant, but alone and unsupported.

A side question to go with this list....If I have Nob warbikers do they get the 4+ cover save that normal warbikers do? Sorry if that is a dumb question I'm new and still trying to figure this all out....

Yes, IIRC

[nephlim667]

Why is a bosspole a good choice? If you have a large mob of 30 you would have to lose 20 orcs just to lose fearless right? I'm still building my army and haven't played yet I'm just trying to figure it out.

[Silas]

Fast Attack
1 Deffkpta (Buzzsaw, twin-linked rockets)
1 Deffkpta (Buzzsaw, twin-linked rockets)
1 Deffkpta (Buzzsaw, twin-linked rockets)

I've never found these guys as useful, maybe drop them for the upgrades needed on the shoota boy nobs or the extra nob biker and kits

I'm going to go with AOB here. They have their uses, but most of the time, i regret taking them.

With the number of points here you could easily add more/better boys/nobs

[Angelofblades]

Why is a bosspole a good choice? If you have a large mob of 30 you would have to lose 20 orcs just to lose fearless right? I'm still building my army and haven't played yet I'm just trying to figure it out.

Just because it will take losing 20 orks to start taking morale checks, doesn't mean it wont happen.

[nephlim667]

What would be a good replacement for the Defkoptas? I'm worried about armor and I thought they would do a good job for that would something else be better to take like lootas?

[Angelofblades]

Lootas should be the first go to choice you take for anti armor, however when it comes to taking out a land raider, your only 2 options are either a wagon with a deffrolla or hitting with your S9 nobz or S10 warboss.

[nephlim667]

what is the chance of the biker nobz getting to the land raider?

[Angelofblades]

pretty good actually, the problem isn't the land raider really. It's what's inside the land raider. So you blow up the land raider then what? You get counter charged by....assault terminators....that's not a good prospect really.

[nephlim667]

Will assault terminators eat them up? If they have the cybork bodies and pk's, and you include the warboss with that mob wouldn't they do ok? Or is that wishful thinking?

[Angelofblades]

If any unit has a chance to deal with them in combat, they have the best chances to. Cybork bodies only gives you a 5+ invul save, and you will be facing 3+ invul saves...

[nephlim667]

Those sound particularly nasty, what is the best way to deal with them?

[Silas]

Mob them, outnumber them 2 or 3 to 1 in CC. The more saves they have to make, the better for you. I think @SourImplant said something like "Orcs are bullies, anything that looks like a fair fight should be avoided."

[nephlim667]

Can you get more than one unit into an assault against another? If say I assault the Land Raider with the bikers, destroy the land raider and I had a mob of orc boys standing by could they jump the terminators? Or if the bikers and the termies are mixing it up could a group of boys join in the fun?

[Silas]

All the assaults are done at the same time, I believe. So you couldn't wait for the raider to explode, and then assault the guys inside.

Sorry.

You could however pop it during the shooting phase with a deffrolla or possibly a SAG, then assault whatever crawls out during the assault phase.

[nephlim667]

How about if it is spaced over 2 turns? So turn 1 the bikers mob the tank, the termies pop out and assault the bikers, then turn 2 the ork boys jump in to the melee and the crowd goes wild?

[Silas]

You could certainly try that if you timed it right. The termies would most certainly be decimated, if you REALLy need those termies gone and are willing to devote two resources to it.

[Angelofblades]

You could certainly try that if you timed it right. The termies would most certainly be decimated, if you REALLy need those termies gone and are willing to devote two resources to it.

3 Resources. You forgot to add the warboss.

[nephlim667]

is it better to just let them roam?