New Necrons Help

**Callaghan41** · 15th January 2012 14:21

I don't know too much about them, but the new necrons and their mindshackle scarabs look pretty scary to my crowe purifier list. My 5 purifier units are only 5-6 men, so mindshackle scarabs and power weapons will hurt. Any ideas on how to counter this?

**edmundblack** · 15th January 2012 14:32

Shoot them until they're all dead? If they're playing dirty, play dirtier. Get some psychotrokes in there, and maybe even some Rad, Blind and Empyrean. Necrons can play dirty, but GKs can play dirtier*. Mindshackles are more of a "don't get too near" kind of thing as most Necrons will crumble (in theory) in combat. If they're Relentless or have the Assault 24" weapons, then you need to take them out from further away. If they're Warriors: bait and move, bait and more, bait and move and strike. Scarabs shouldn't be a problem as they'll be predictable and easily dealt with (you know what they're doing, right? So dangle something for them to go for but is just out of reach).

* though personally I don't.

**Callaghan41** · 15th January 2012 16:54

Riflemen dreads focus on vehicles, TL heavy bolters on warriors/scarabs?

**edmundblack** · 15th January 2012 17:09

And how is that any different to now?

**Callaghan41** · 15th January 2012 17:23

Not very.

**Ork Marine** · 17th January 2012 17:26

I suppose that the vindicare assassin could be used to get rid of the model carrying the scarabs rather easy*, and thus making it safer to assault.
(*Depending on the model, saves, wounds etc)

**MC Tic Tac** · 17th January 2012 19:50

Originally Posted by Callaghan41

I don't know too much about them, but the new necrons and their mindshackle scarabs look pretty scary to my crowe purifier list. My 5 purifier units are only 5-6 men, so mindshackle scarabs and power weapons will hurt. Any ideas on how to counter this?

Contrary to popular belief Purifiers are primary a shooting unit that are also very good in assault.

Also take 10 man units - you can always combat squad outside of kill points and it also means you are still getting your full 2 psycannons per 5 Purifiers.

**edmundblack** · 17th January 2012 20:35

Originally Posted by Ork Marine

I suppose that the vindicare assassin could be used to get rid of the model carrying the scarabs rather easy*, and thus making it safer to assault.
(*Depending on the model, saves, wounds etc)

Whut?

If you mean Bloodshackles, there's no defense against that as it's done before or in deployment. Scarab bases however are anti-vehicle trolls.

**Ork Marine** · 18th January 2012 03:45

Originally Posted by edmundblack

Whut?

If you mean Bloodshackles, there's no defense against that as it's done before or in deployment. Scarab bases however are anti-vehicle trolls.

Hmm I didn't think about that they have more than one kind of scarabs. Mindshackle scarabs, in this case. The assassin can pick out the lord, or whatever, and use proper ammunition. Against regular scarabs, I would troll him back by bringing no vehicles.. but I suppose that I wouldn't know my opponents list before hand, unlike last time. Doesn't incinerators and psycannons kill them instantly?

And by the way, while I'm adressing you. Purgation squad: 2 psycannons in a rhino, driving around, or 4 psycannons driving around and eventually disembarking and shooting through anything? I know that you'd recommend using flamers instead but... I like psycannons. (If this is the wrong place for this conversation, feel free to remove it and pm it instead. I apriciate it.)

**edmundblack** · 18th January 2012 12:08

Mindshackles are a CC upgrade "weapon" such as grenades, Scarabs are entirely different.

Purgation Squads: up to you, both are good. I prefer cheap and effective rather than expensive and giving away cover saves myself.

**Ork Marine** · 19th January 2012 00:40

Yea, well, I appaerently didn't remember to add "mindshackle" before "scarabs". I can see how that might get confusing. I am well aware of the difference. Whatever. Thanks for the advice though.

**Bodopo** · 19th January 2012 11:57

as ork said if your struggling against necrons vindicar is your best mate. Have him snipe out the characters with the orbs and other good stuff. As invul saves are quite hard to come by for necrons and the models that can buy one have to pay quite a hefty price hellfire rounds are perfect.