necron faq's are out

[Badarmies2]

Am I the only one whom noticed that if you take 2 overlords you can add 2 crypteks/Necron Lords to one squad? Just think about it. Now I can put the storm lord in a unit of warriors with a Necron Lord with a warscyth, Mindshackle Scarabs and resc.orb and I can put a Harbringer of eternity with a chrometron in the same unit.

You have always been able to do this. It is done in several of the barge lists where your overlords just zoom around so they aren't real tooled, and you do thinks like double lances, double solar pulses, double abysal staffs with deathmarks. double mint fun

I am still not sure how this makes the Harp any good although I have seen it used against MC's to a decent degree of effectiveness.

[Cryage]

How so? Haven't studied it in depth, but how?

The cryptek with an abyssal staff is a str 8 ap 1, however it goes against leadership.

Since it benefits from the "marked unit" the deathmark unit can provide, it now wounds that specific unit on a 2+ vs str 8 vs leaderships (which are usually 9 or 10) so its a super powered flamer vs 1 unit.

Anybody see the nerf to Anrakyr?

in the brb FAQ :

Q: Can models embarked upon a vehicle use its fire
points to draw line of sight to a unit to use special
rules or wargear (other than shooting)? (p66)
A: No.

No more skimming around the board using mind of the machine on your command barge.

[vikinboere]

The only thing that i noticed was that my poor csm got hit by the nerfbat again. Lash needs to hit now, warptime, reroll all the dice not just the ones who failed

[edmundblack]

The cryptek with an abyssal staff is a str 8 ap 1, however it goes against leadership.

Since it benefits from the "marked unit" the deathmark unit can provide, it now wounds that specific unit on a 2+ vs str 8 vs leaderships (which are usually 9 or 10) so its a super powered flamer vs 1 unit.

And you can get two such models to join that unit. Yays.

[Badarmies2]

And you can get two such models to join that unit. Yays.

Keep in mind it costs you a minimum of 180 points and both HQ slots to achieve this, and you have to give up the ability to take a D-lord as they don't get a court. Its not even close to OP, fun yes, OP no.

[edmundblack]

Still nasty. Even one is nasty.

[Angelofblades]

Anybody see the nerf to Anrakyr?

in the brb FAQ :



No more skimming around the board using mind of the machine on your command barge.

You didn't see this coming? Honestly?

Flat out to gain cover save, whack a vehicle in the process then reach out and control another? And you didn't see this coming?

On a more positive note, IG psyker battle squads can't do this out of a Chimera anymore.

On a whole though, I'm happy with the Necron codex. It pretty much backs up everything I've said

[Arlins]

You didn't see this coming? Honestly?

Flat out to gain cover save, whack a vehicle in the process then reach out and control another? And you didn't see this coming?

On a more positive note, IG psyker battle squads can't do this out of a Chimera anymore.

On a whole though, I'm happy with the Necron codex. It pretty much backs up everything I've said

isnt it just for vehicles with fire points , ? command barge being open topped wouldnt fall into this

[commandojimbob]

isnt it just for vehicles with fire points , ? command barge being open topped wouldnt fall into this

That was my thinking also !

[Angelofblades]

Actually, open topped vehicles are considered to have equivalent fire points of models inside them, allowing them all to shoot. So it still counts. Nice try though.

[Cryage]

isnt it just for vehicles with fire points , ? command barge being open topped wouldnt fall into this

There is actually a 5 page argument about this on dakkadakka, curious to what 40kforums thoughts are...

Under the wording for open topped it says open topped vehicles have "no SPECIFIC fire points" , that doesn't mean that the entire vehicle isn't considered a fire point. I could see more people not allowing it than allowing it.

[Arlins]

Actually, open topped vehicles are considered to have equivalent fire points of models inside them, allowing them all to shoot. So it still counts. Nice try though.

didnt know that AOB

There is actually a 5 page argument about this on dakkadakka, curious to what 40kforums thoughts are...

Under the wording for open topped it says open topped vehicles have "no SPECIFIC fire points" , that doesn't mean that the entire vehicle isn't considered a fire point. I could see more people not allowing it than allowing it.

oh its going to rage on isnt it , personaly im hapy with codex necrons , very happy and this bit of FAQ doesnt spoil that for me

[Cryage]

Actually, open topped vehicles are considered to have equivalent fire points of models inside them, allowing them all to shoot. So it still counts. Nice try though.

Thats my exact thoughts AoB. Lots of people on dakkadakka are arguing that an open topped doesnt have any ACTUAL fire points so it doesn't count (they are actually saying they have "0" firepoints because open topped is a special rule), i argued that technically an open topped vehicle has unlimited fire points because you can shoot from anywhere on it.

Obviously my argument was ignored because it was too logical for the internet

[Angelofblades]

I give dakka little attention. I've always found alot of them to be wrong in their interpretation of the rules.

The only other site I go to is BoL, for rumors on new things coming up, for the Warcon tourney info and their video battle reports.

Which had me thinking to make my own video battle reports

But who would want to watch me play....

[Cryage]

I give dakka little attention. I've always found alot of them to be wrong in their interpretation of the rules.

The only other site I go to is BoL, for rumors on new things coming up, for the Warcon tourney info and their video battle reports.

Which had me thinking to make my own video battle reports

But who would want to watch me play....

Just make them clean and no shaky cam. I hate listening to somebody sniffing their nose or using their cell phone or their $100 digital camera recording feature to do them where the audio quality is shite.

If you look up battle reports on miniwargaming (beat matt bat reps) , I find those are the best and most clear. He does the voiceover after.

[Fingers]

Am I the only one whom noticed that if you take 2 overlords you can add 2 crypteks/Necron Lords to one squad? Just think about it. Now I can put the storm lord in a unit of warriors with a Necron Lord with a warscyth, Mindshackle Scarabs and resc.orb and I can put a Harbringer of eternity with a chrometron in the same unit.

Or I can make a dangerous combo with two Cryteks one with tremorstaff & Harp of dissonance and the other with aeonstaff and Chronometron. Which means suddenly means I can reduce armour values at an infinity range and thanks to the Chronometron the chance will be high that it will happen. Of course the combo was possible with one court but then they couldn't join a squad which is then vulnerable to enemy fire but now I can attach a scoring cheap meat shields (or should we say metal shields?). Most likely a few warriors and then deployed in cover. True this combo is expensive 95 points of only crypteks. But remember you can now more easily destroy landraider and leman russ at a distance. And cover doesn't work against entropic rules.

Or how about a deepstriking Death Mark squad with Harbringer of despair with veil of darkness and a Necron lord with resc orb?

Or how about a squad joined with two harbingers of storm both equiped with Lightning Fields? 2d6 str 8 ap 5 hits against any enemy unit that assaults it? Ouch....

I will wager there are more dangerous combos out there and wonder what lists will come. I'm no power gamer more a fluff and concept gamer but even I saw the potential when I read the last Faq question and answer.

I think most have us have always played it that way