Lords - Are they needed?

**SonsOfStalingrad** · 20th January 2012 19:44

Under the old VC rules, Vampires were essential in the army. You didn't want your general dead because the army would suffer. Essentially it was instinct to take a Vampire Lord and tool it up to do both magic and combat just so it stood a decent chance of surviving.

Under the new Vampire Counts rules however, there's a lot of tempting options and the death of the general is hardly as bad as it used to be..
So, are Lords really... neccessary? Can an army work without a lord, only a few cheap-ish heroes?

**Strassa** · 20th January 2012 19:48

yes it can but keep in mind that the higher you go in points the less effective an army headed by heros can be

**SonsOfStalingrad** · 20th January 2012 20:26

My lord would typically be about 450 points in a 2k game. and there'd be a hero anyway.
so going to just heroes isn't too much of a stretch.

**BrokenWing** · 20th January 2012 21:09

Depends on the points level. 2,000 points and up, a Lord is generally a good thing to have, especially if the other side has a Lord. Some armies (like VC) can stretch this farther than others because they don't need the improved leadership.

**Dark Lord Foamy** · 20th January 2012 22:36

While I don't think they are needed and you can make do without them my skinks are proof of this I do find lords to be quite useful especially wizard lords as that lvl 4 upgrade allows you to increase your chances of dispelling and casting compared to a hero level and if you look at things like my vampire lord he's expensive but could eat an entire unit by himself so while Lords are expensive they are for a reason and usually make it back if used right.

**Aeviaan** · 23rd January 2012 02:23

For the new VC book, I would at least recommend a lvl 4 naked master Necromancer, if nothing else (though I usually give him an item or two). Very few other armies can take a level 4 for as cheap as that, and that frees up another potential hero vampire for lore of death.