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21st January 2012 17:23 #1
Crimson Fists 1500 help
So i came up with this list but i feel like theres something missing, and i feel like its not resilient enough against most armies, just wondering what you guys think, what i should change/remove/add:
HQ
Pedro Kantor - 175
Librarian - 100
Elite
9X Sternguard Veteran - 255 (1 power fist, 1 multi-melta)
Rhino - 35
9X Sterguard Veteran - 245 (4 multi-melta)
Rhino - 35
Troop
10X Tactical Squad - 205 (sergeant power fist and combi-flamer, flamer, missile launcher)
Rhino - 35
5X Scout - 90 (sniper rifles, camo cloaks)
Fast Attack
2X Land Speeder - 140 (heavy flamer, multi-melta)
Heavy Support
2X Predator - 170 (TLHB, autocannon)
Total: 1485
With 15 points to spare on whatever
Last edited by jimid_19; 22nd January 2012 at 02:21.
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22nd January 2012 20:23 #2
Welcome brother!
I wouldn't recommend a barebones librarian. In order to get the most out of them, you really want them in terminator armor at to be an epistolary. In 1500 points, it might be better to have only 1 HQ. Fortunately, Pedro is awesome.
If you are going to get scouts, I would strongly recommend Telion. I find scouts to be subpar, but Telion alone almost makes them worth it. In addition, he grants stealth for the entire unit, so you don't need to buy them camo cloaks.
I have no experience running land speeders, so I cannot help you there.
For predators, I hear it is good to run the autocannon with lascannon side sponsons.
As it is, you can deal with armor and hordes pretty well, and with the land speeders, you have a little maneuverability as well. All in all, not a bad list. Perhaps others can help you further, but if you make just a few of the changes I said, I think you'll find your list to be much more solid.
Crimson Fists are making a comeback. Painted: 3 HQs, 3 Tactical Squads, 1 Scout Squad, 2 Dreadnoughts, 2 Rhinos, 1 Land Raider.
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23rd January 2012 17:22 #3
I am pretty sure you can't take 4 heavy weapons (multi-meltas) on the sternguard. Go with the Combi-Meltas instead, that way you can still fire SIA. You might want some combi flamers in the Sternguard squads as well.
I would take off the cloaks from the scouts and the combi from the tactical sgt, and swap his PF for a PW. Then you can get Telion.
I prefer to purchase marines second hand, they have more experience that way
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