Why no one is using bike and raptor?

**bombevil** · 2nd February 2012 00:35

I watched CSM games, I never see anyone using fast attack, seriously, are they really lame, I like the raptor model, I want to try them. However, my local store , those people want me to have the real model to play with it, I do not want to invest on a sorry unit .

**Angelofblades** · 2nd February 2012 00:36

Originally Posted by bombevil

I do not want to invest on a sorry unit .

Answered your own question right there.

**The Dark Pwner** · 2nd February 2012 00:43

No one takes bikes because they are waaaaay to exspensive.

As for raptors...idk. If they were cheaper or I came up with a nice conversion i'd build a list around 30 of them.

**Chaos_Turtle** · 2nd February 2012 03:46

raptors can be good if used the right way. if you add a couple melta guns then they can be used as a decent tank killer

**vikinboere** · 2nd February 2012 14:15

Bikers are waaaay to expensive. Raptors can be used as a small anti vehicle unit. I've had moderate succes with 2 units of 5 raptors: 2 meltaguns and 1 non-upgraded champion as a possible sacrifice for a summoned greater daemon.

Also the metal raptor models are a huge pain in the *ss to field, they allways, allways fall over (even when you put some weight below the base)

**Eryx_UK** · 2nd February 2012 23:53

Chaos bikers are way too expensive. That's their problem, though I have seen them used to good effect as tank hunters (melta guns), so I wouldn't discount them entirely.

As for Raptors, no one I know, even the dedicated Chaos fan boys, ever plays them. They just don't seem worth it. Same with Havocs.

**Shining Finger** · 3rd February 2012 05:17

Ebay is your friend when you want to buy expensive units

A biker unit is as fast as Chaos can get. Give them powerfist and meltas to kill tanks, or plasmas and power weapons to kill devastators.

**Fingers** · 3rd February 2012 21:15

Chaos Bikers:

2 Melta Gun guys, 1 plain jane champion with an icon. You now have a unit that can zip around the field, take out tanks with their melta guns, deep strike onto, or sacrifice the champion for a Greater Daemon all for around 110pts

**Warmaster Lucos** · 4th February 2012 10:16

110 pts is fine, but 40 more points gets you 2 oblits...

**Khorneguy** · 4th February 2012 13:15

I sue them. I tend to mob them into a 20-strong unit, add my lord with Jump Pack and terrify my opponent by leaping into combat from out of sight, multi-assaulting the hell out of him and generally putting the boot into his carefully laid plans while I take objectives with Lesser Deamons and regular CSM's

**Fingers** · 7th February 2012 19:10

Originally Posted by Warmaster Lucos

110 pts is fine, but 40 more points gets you 2 oblits...

only if you arent maxxed out already in heavy slots

**Warmaster Lucos** · 8th February 2012 21:44

ahhh! true :p i'd like to see a points reduction for a few things in the new codex, or even keep the points the same and add something which makes em a little more useful.

i guess im just bitter cause i have a squad of noise-bikers with sonic blasters who saw a fair bit of action before the current codex came along and made them useless.

**runningmonkey** · 9th February 2012 20:36

Originally Posted by Khorneguy

I sue them. I tend to mob them into a 20-strong unit, add my lord with Jump Pack and terrify my opponent by leaping into combat from out of sight, multi-assaulting the hell out of him and generally putting the boot into his carefully laid plans while I take objectives with Lesser Deamons and regular CSM's

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**Repentant** · 10th February 2012 22:07

For me, I like to run Raptors if I can find the spare points (tend to be between the couch cushions). Reason? I bought regular Assault Marines, painted them Alpha Legion colors, applied a transfer here and there, and maybe a head swap or an arm, and BOOM: Chaos Raptors! Lightweight, looks chaos-y enough, and if anyone questions it, I can always answer 'I'm Alpha Legion, deal with it."

**roachski** · 3rd April 2012 14:11

i use raptors and bikes, raptors with the mark of khorne and the bikes with mark of nurgle. i also have a landraider with eserkers in and a winged demon priince. i only use the raptrs cos they look cool and now they are in finecast they dont fall over once you put a 2p under the ase,

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