is icon really needed for chaos space marine troop?

[bombevil]

Seriously, I do not see any people are using regular CSM, most of them are using plague and khrome, if i was using csm, i think i m using nurgle icon. champ w/ power fist and 2meltagun for my 10 man.

[Chaos_Turtle]

the reason everybody uses an icon is because it seems pretty stupid not to....most people build an army with a clear-ish idea of what they want from it, and each sign has a different benefit for a small point value. it just makes sense to make your troops better i guess

[The Dark Pwner]

The answer is simple...Cult troops do it better. You want an assault unit? go Berserker. Want an objective holder? go Plague. Want a mid range shooting unit? go plague. want a cheap flexible tank hunter? go plague. want some for daemons to deep strike off of while gaining the buffs of the above? go berserker and plague....see where im going with this?

[Baragash]

The answer is simple...Cult troops do it better. You want an assault unit? go Berserker. Want an objective holder? go Plague. Want a mid range shooting unit? go plague. want a cheap flexible tank hunter? go plague. want some for daemons to deep strike off of while gaining the buffs of the above? go berserker and plague....see where im going with this?

Can't agree with that. Zerks are over-priced pony if you don't get the charge so you absolutely need a points sink Land Raider to deliver them. Per point CSM put out more firepower than Plague Marines and attract less dangerous firepower in return.

[edmundblack]

But are not T5 with FNP & Blight Grenades. For the extra points they cost, the bonuses are great and significant. I3 means squat if you can't be killed easily. Nurgle marked Marines are not Plague Marines, they're "Really Bad Cold Marines".

[Baragash]

I use the IoCG myself. Regardless, PMs take it like a bitch from any decent assault-based unit just like regular CSM because their benefits are negated by their lack of numbers. GK, BA and SW splatter them, you're better off with TS in those circumstances because the 4+ Inv is much better protection.

[edmundblack]

That sort of mixed approach is really what the intention was I think. "Pure" lists don't really have the amount of punch they should. And in my experience, Plague Marines are tough-as-nails mo-fo's that for some reason don't like the idea of dying.

[Chaos_Turtle]

you mean you can mix your army with some plague and some khorne?

[Fingers]

Icons. Answer this question: Does my army have Obliterators or Termicide deep striking in? If you answered yes, you should have icons. If you answered no, go with Plague Marines/T Sons/Khorne Berserkers or just regular marines with no icon instead.