Old models. Yay or nay?

[Skyy9432]

You've probably already guessed what this post is refering to, but there are actually ways I'd see older models to not be allowed, wheras others would make me think "why not?". I was planning on buying gretchin in bulk due to their cheap eBay price compared to a new box from GW. Also the fact I genuinely prefer the older gretchin models with their armoured look. Here's some thoughts.

If they have the right equipment, then what's wrong? They are the unit. They have the equipment. It's the same thing in a different pose.

Granted some stuff is differently scaled, like the old ork trukk... which can be considered cheese if you use a model that is tactically superior. But these gretchin are jut little grots.

What do you guys think? Are old models legal to use in any circumstances?

[PyroSikTh]

Old models, providing they're armed with the right weapons, are always considered legal. Slight differences in scale does not matter.

[commandojimbob]

So long as its a GW model and WYSIWYG then I cant believe anyone would have a promblem with old models. I mean for me go back 17/18 years when I did fantasy, the Beastman Champion and Shamen I had are still available !

[edmundblack]

Hell, my entire GK army is metal infantry and now they're in plastic. I'd do nasty things with the gaming table and my opponent's earhole(s) if they said I couldn't play because they're the old type. Bases can be troublesome at times, because some models came on different bases to their current incarnations. But for little gretchin, it'll be fine.

[Skyy9432]

Cheers guys! I can now buy my hoard of gretchin at a nice price ;D The only thing to do will be convert a couple of runtherders, which should be simple enough Cheers again!

[NoobOrky2011]

I don't see anything wrong with older models, I used a Gorkamorka set to bolster up my Ork army.

[Fingers]

Yup I had a guy sell me 20 old Scarabs (metal bug things) and Immortals for $1 each. You better believe Im using those bad boys.

[wookieplus]

Hell, my entire GK army is metal infantry and now they're in plastic. I'd do nasty things with the gaming table and my opponent's earhole(s) if they said I couldn't play because they're the old type.

A white metal model inserted in someones orifice does Sooooo much more damage than the plastic equivalent, lol

Some really old models do look a bit rubbish (e.g. original terminators), but there is no rule against using them so long as they are on the correct base sizes - so old terminators need rebasing for instance. It really comes down to the size of your budget, and the amount of pride you take in your army.

When I play my son in Fantasy, we still use some of the very first plastic model set released by Citadel (and some even older white metal models)! With a decent paint job they dont look too bad, but I wouldnt want to take them to a tournament. A reasonably painted old model always looks a million times better than a black spray-undercoated model, and it is not uncommon for people to field those.

[Ann]

I don't see anything wrong with the older models either. Some of them are quite cute! True, some of the older models are kind of out of date like the tiny ork trukks. I haven't been playing 40K all that long but I borrow some of the old trukks from time to time from a friend, and what I've done is to put them on cardboard bases that give them the same footprint as the new trukk and I tell my opponent that for purposes of cover, LOS, etc. consider them the same as a newer trukk, of which I own one and always field so the comparison can be made. So far no one has had a problem with it. I don't play that list very often, just something different to do. Mostly I find that keeping my army WYSIWYG is an aspect of the game that gives me pleasure, though I don't care if my opponent does the same so long as I know what stuff is and they are being reasonble, i.e. not fielding Matchbox cars and calling them trukks. The fun is the thing after all.

As for grots, I can't imagine why anyone would have a problem with the older ones. I think if you are going to use a lot of grots mixing in the older ones is a great idea instead of using all new ones. Not only are they cheaper but you would get more variety in looks and poses too for a large group.

-- Ann

[daddy4count]

Yay, in fact HooRay, all the way

I love older models... a few of them can be goofy looking... if you go back far enough. But for the most part I really like mixing in older sculpts with the new ones.

[edmundblack]

A white metal model inserted in someones orifice does Sooooo much more damage than the plastic equivalent, lol

Perhaps, but I'd use the gaming table and not my GKTs.

[Inquisitor_Helmawr]

*returns from ebay*

I'm building a Nid army out of nothing but classic models and some polystryrene eggs. Looks better and keeps the costs down.

Someone complains, and I take off my sock, slide my carnifex into it and start spinning...

*goes back to searching*

[SonsOfStalingrad]

I own tons of those old grots. Scale is barely any different. No one will moan, especially about grots.

[Badarmies2]

most old models are crap, but some are good. I love the classic tzeentch flamers for herald converstions. Classic nids actually looked like bugs. I find the classic orks to look like total crap compared to todays orks as to the SM. Most old models lack detail.

[Cryptek of Awesome]

Yeah for sure - some of the old models are the best! It would have to be a pretty cold-hearted opponent to not let you play with them.

[StainlessSteel47]

I was given an old model Necron Overlord and repainted it, it's pretty sweet. Hey, for free, can't beat it.

[wookieplus]

Perhaps, but I'd use the gaming table and not my GKTs.

You're always up for a challenge EB! lol

Someone complains, and I take off my sock, slide my carnifex into it and start spinning...

Works best with Ol One Eye - White metal model. The plastic carnies just arent up to the old sock trick these days...

[Captain Caceres]

Sounds like a good plan.

Iv just come back to the hobby from a ten year hiatus and am using some old IG models to start a new army which includes an original Yarrick with the lobster looking claw instead of the new one. I dont mind it and iv repainted it now, just hope no one tries to tell me i cant use it. otherwise yarricks claw wmight get stuck up their nose..

[Warmaster Lucos]

old metal noise marines ooze character, i'd rather see a well made\painted army that someone has loving put time and effort into than loads of new models totally unpainted

[mephiston_2k]

Wasnt there like 40 of those little suckers (grots) in the old 2nd edition box set? I've still got the lot knocking about somewhere I reckon lol