Lore oddities

[Coldfire]

It occured to me today that the "eastern fringe" is poorly named, as the cardinal directions don't really apply to space.

You all know of any other oddities in the lore like this?

[BrokenWing]

Actually, using cardinal directions in space is extremely common. While you wouldn't ordinarily use it for navigational purposes, Sci-Fi often uses it when referring to galactic limitations, or the borders of a star empire. It's much easier for people to talk about when you can say "the galactic east", it's an easy way for someone to perceive what you're talking about when they don't have a map directly in front of them. There are, of course, examples of sci-fi settings that don't make use of this, like Star Trek, which has divided the galaxy into quadrants and also refers to the borders of the Federation in terms of Neutral Zones.

Generally, people know when you say "galactic east" that you know there are no cardinal directions in space, but they also are then able to form a mental image and know immediately what direction the thing you are talking about is in.

Edit: As for an oddity I've noticed...I think Orks make the least sense out of any race from a biological perspective. The fact that they are genetically engineered helps to a degree, but it also makes it even worse, because I have no idea why anyone would choose to biologically engineer a species of bipedal humanoids out of fungus. I suppose it's for easy breeding, but there are other ways of doing that, that make more sense to me.

[klaswullt]

It's common in sci fi to use directions in space, but if you think about it doesnt make alot of sense if you look at 3d-maps of the galaxy.
.. the Galaxy rotates you know, planets and stars MOVES and the direction would be in 3-dimentions.
So it is really nonsense, the star systems in the rim rotate in different speeds
so one planet in the galactic east is not neccessary the galactic west
at the same time as another planet in the same "sector".

The rims should really be called "equator" becouse it rotates,
and the middle of the galaxy should be the south and north poles.



I would love to see the W40 k map to be drawn to on the real world 3-d-maps
of the Galaxy.
Placing the fictional worlds in real stars.

Its true about the Orc, but the Orcs .. are better not though about in biological terms.
They are are as logical as Dsney cartoons.
They are .. fungi and they make impossible tech...work.

If they wanted the Orcs to make sense they would be more like the Orcs in Fantasy, that the fantasy Orcs are more realistic i find ironic.

None of the races make any biological sense except for Tyranids,
becouse they all look far to human.
The chances that another humanoid equivalent race evolves
in the galaxy is ... nill.


Games Workshop, have taken fantasy races and turned them into aliens.
I think its hillarious in a way, becouse it is almost a satire
of all the stupid humanoid looking aliens in stupid star trek and all other worthless space opera shows.


I have noticed the chaos being unlogical.

If deamons are multi-dimentional energi beings created by telepathy to manifest humanitys sickest sides and extremes.
Then.. I really dont understand why ALL they look like parts man and part animal
from earth biology.
Shouldn't most of them .. have appearance of some more alien biology.
Sure, they absorbes images from human mythology but why?

Slanesh was created by the Eldars fall,
why does the keeper of secret look like a .. earth goat?

Why is the Bloodthirster looking like a peacefull grasseating animal
from earths biology?
It looks like a moose.
Ok, I can understad that the horne is a primal symbol of aggressivity,
but I really dont get the "christian" thing with hoofs and goats
and those peacefull herd animals.
I don't usually think of it, but sometimes it strikes me as odd.


Surely alot of them should predate mankind and the life on Earh
and therefore I would like them look more Cthulosque
than "Satanical".

More entities like the enslavers with other worlds.

[Arlins]

Actually, using cardinal directions in space is extremely common. While you wouldn't ordinarily use it for navigational purposes, Sci-Fi often uses it when referring to galactic limitations, or the borders of a star empire. It's much easier for people to talk about when you can say "the galactic east", it's an easy way for someone to perceive what you're talking about when they don't have a map directly in front of them. There are, of course, examples of sci-fi settings that don't make use of this, like Star Trek, which has divided the galaxy into quadrants and also refers to the borders of the Federation in terms of Neutral Zones.

Generally, people know when you say "galactic east" that you know there are no cardinal directions in space, but they also are then able to form a mental image and know immediately what direction the thing you are talking about is in.

Edit: As for an oddity I've noticed...I think Orks make the least sense out of any race from a biological perspective. The fact that they are genetically engineered helps to a degree, but it also makes it even worse, because I have no idea why anyone would choose to biologically engineer a species of bipedal humanoids out of fungus. I suppose it's for easy breeding, but there are other ways of doing that, that make more sense to me.

orcs were engineered by theold ones ,created to oppose the Ctan and their necrontyr allies , they made a race that even if you wiped them out physically their spores would grow in the
dark places and in a couple of yrs the green buggers are running out the woods and battering your forcres for the sheer hell of it .
In a war of attrition orcs make perfect sense .

[BrokenWing]

I still disagree that people in sci-fi should use logical maps of the galaxy or universe. The average person is not going to be able to sit there and think about the movement of stars over billions of years and relate that to direction and placement of fictional places.

I know who made the Orks, I still don't think they make any sense. There are plenty of ways to make a race of warriors that comes back even when you kill all of them that don't resort to silly fungi. I think the concept of the Ork from a non-biological sense works, I think the biology is weird, at best. I also think it was a horrible mistake on their part to make a race so bent on war that it would bring utter ruin and chaos to the galaxy if it won the damn war.

[StainlessSteel47]

The big thing that I have a problem with is how archaic they make the Necrons, and they make them out to be these soulless immortal warriors that don't feel, yet in the codex and fluff, the overlords feel pity, grief and other retain a sense of archaic honor that drives them to faults like them defeating an enemy and simply cutting off the leaders hand and sending him on his merry way. What? Is that what I just read?

As much as the Flayed ones may not be the greatest unit to field, their lore has completely intrigued me like no other because here, like the immortals and the destroyers, you have a series of robots with a 'curse' or what we would call a computer virus, that slowly drives their programming, their mechanical minds to something that we would call homicidal madness. These machines require the blood and flesh of their enemies, an unrelenting force unfeeling robots that want to flay the flesh from bone and wear it as skin and done the muscles and blood as battle scars. To me, the Flayed Ones and the Destroyers are what embodies the Necrons to the fullest extent. Unfeeling, undying, unabated rage and soulless destruction and annihilation of other races. This stuff of Honor that drives the Overlords to make stupid decisions is merely the lowest form of fluff that contradicts what the entire race is about.

[BrokenWing]

They made that fluff change because a lot of people found the idea of an army with no real characters to be pretty boring. Vampire Counts in Fantasy have always faced the same problem,, just to a lesser extent. Hard to care about an army, for me at least, if everything in it is completely soulless and emotionless, it's why I have always struggled with playing Tyranids...there's nothing for me to write about. Nothing that doesn't get old after awhile anyway.

[Gendoikari87]

It occured to me today that the "eastern fringe" is poorly named, as the cardinal directions don't really apply to space.

You all know of any other oddities in the lore like this?

Mechanicus is full of them. in some skitarii is the name for hulking gen bulked servitors, for others it's the name for tech-guard, and futher still in some it's all military forces under the mechanicus's control... except for secutors, which are basically warrior techpriests, though in some lore secotors are elite skitarii...... I could go on but you get the point.