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7th February 2012 17:47 #1
This or That? Necrons vs GK vs Chaos Marines 2000pts
So I have an upcoming tourney (mostly casual players) and Ive narrowed it down to 3 lists. Looking for feed back as to which you feel is strongest/most fun to play, and any suggestions to fine tune them. Entry fee is $10 so its more bragging rights than anything else (but I am 2 time defending champ)
List 1. The necrons. I dont have any of the fancy conversions to try out Nightscythes/Doomscythes, so Im going with the models I have. I also only own 1 Tomb Spyder, and 3 old school Wraiths so using them would be limited:
HQ:
Imotekh…225pts
Nemesor Zahndrek…185pts
Royal Court 1 (Stormlord)
Cryptek #1…35pts (with immortals #2)
- Harbringer of Destruction
Cryptek #2…35pts (with immortals)
- Harbringer of Destruction
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Cryptek #3…35pts (With Lychguard)
- Harbringer of Storm, Lightning Field
Royal Court 2 (Zahndrek)
Lord #1…60pts (With Lychguard)
- Warscythe, MS Scarabs
Cryptek #4…35pts (with warriors)
- Harbringer of Storm, Lightning Field
Troops:
6 Immortals…85pts
- Tesla Carbines
6 Immortals…85pts
- Tesla Carbines
12 Warriors…156pts
Fast:
9 Scarabs…135pts
1 Heavy Destroyer… 60pts
1 Heavy Destroyer… 60pts
Elite:
7 Lychguard…315pts
- Sword + Shield
Heavy:
Monolith…200pts
Monolith…200pts
Ann. Barge…90pts
The Nemes Z/Lychguard Unit would be my deathstar, moving around as needed with Monolith Portals for fast deployment across field. Barge would go elite troop hunting, Monoliths would throw pie plates, imotekh would do his lightning thing, supported by a block of warriors sitting back on objective. 2 destroyers would try to blow up tanks as able.
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List 2. They Grey Knights. With some help from EB, I came up with this GK list. PRetty straight forward.
HQ:
Librarian…. 220pts
Warding Staff , Might of Titan Sanctuary , Warp Rift , Quicksilver , Shrouding
Empyrean Brain Mines
Troops:
Strike Squad (6)… 191pts
Psy Cannon, 1x Halberd, 3x Sword, Justicar with Halberd
Razorback with Psi Bolts, Search Light
Strike Squad (6)… 191pts
Psy Cannon, 1x Halberd, 2x Sword, Justicar with Halberd
Razorback with Psi Bolts, Search Light
Terminators (5)… 225pts
1 x Psi Cannon+ Sword, 1 x Halberd, 1 x Hammer, 1x Sword, Justicar with Halberd
Fast Attack:
Storm Raven Gunship… 201pts
Twin Linked Multi-Melta, Twin Linked Assault Cannon, Search Light
Heavy:
Psirifle Dreadnought… 136pts
2x Twin Linked Auto Cannons, Psibolt Ammo, Searchlight
Psirifle Dreadnought… 136pts
2x Twin Linked Auto Cannons, Psibolt Ammo, Searchlight
Dread Knight… 270pts
Heavy Incinerator, Gatling Psilencer, Personal Teleporter
Elite:
Vindicare Assassin… 145pts
Tech Marine…. 110pts
Conversion Beamer
5 Purifiers... 175pts
Incinerator x2, 1 halberd, 1 sword, 1 Justicar with Halberd
Razorback with Psi Bolts, Search Light
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Abbadon's Black Legion.
This was the list I won last tourney with:
Abbadon the Despoiler 275pts
Varkas the Unbroken (Daemon Prince) 205pts
- Wings, Mark of Tzeentch , Warp Time , Wind of Chaos
- (Monstrous Creature, Jump Infantry, Close Combat Weapon, Eternal Warrior)
Troops
Hounds of Khorne (8 Khorne Berserkers) 198pts
- Asp. Champion w/ Power Weapon
- Power Armor, Frag/Krak Grenades, Bolt Pistol, CCW, Fearless, Furious Charge
10 Chaos Marines 215pts
- Asp. Champion w/ Power Weapon , Combi Melta , 2 x Melta Guns , Icon
- Bolter, Bolt Pistol, CCW, Frag/Krak Grenades, Power Armor
Rhino 45pts
- Combi Melta
- Twin linked Bolter, Smoke Launchers, Search Lights, Repair
7 Plague Marines 226pts
- Aspiring Champion w/ Power Weapon , Combi Melta , 2 x Melta Guns, Icon
- Bolter, Bolt Pistol, CCW, Fearless, Feel No Pain, Power Armor, Frag/Krak/Blight Grenades
Rhino 35pts
- Twin linked Bolter, Smoke Launchers, Search Lights, Repair
Heavy Support
Defiler 150pts
- 1 x Reaper Autocannon, 1 x Close Combat Weapon
- 2 x DCCW, Smoke Launchers, Battle Cannon, Fleet
3 Obliterators 225pts
- Fearless, Slow and Purposeful, Obliterator Weapons, Power Fist
Land Raider 240pts
- Daemonic Possession, Search Light, Smoke Launcher, 2x TL Lascannons, TL Heavy Bolter
Elite
5 Chosen 140pts
- 5 x Melta Gun
- Power Armor, CCW, Bolt Pistol, Frag/Krak Grenades, Infiltrate
Rhino 45pts
- Combi Melta
- Twin linked Bolter, Smoke Launchers, Search Lights, Repair
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Thoughts?
Last edited by Fingers; 8th February 2012 at 13:37.
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Accept certain inalienable truths: Necrons will rise, invulnerable saves will fail, you too will deep strike off of the table, and when you do you'll fantasize that when you were young Necrons didn't come back, Terminators were gods and the scatter die always read "Hit".
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7th February 2012 17:50 #2
On the Necrons, I wouldn't put Harbringers of Destruction in a unit of Tesla Immortals. Tesla is good against infantry and lacklustre against vehicles, which you'll want to aim the Eldritch lance at. Instead I'd give them a Harbringer of Storm or Transmogrification.
Necrons
Dark Eldar
Death Guard
Nurgle Daemons
Traitor Guard
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7th February 2012 17:53 #3
i like the chaos list. Just beware that the new faq says that warptime has to re-roll all wounds or none...you can not take the ones that failed to wound and leave the ones that wounded
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7th February 2012 21:36 #4
You need to take out all the points costs for upgrades. It's against Forum rules due to copyright issues.
Your Strike Squads have too much fat on them. Drop the upgrades all together. If you're taking a 6-man unit in a Psyback, chances are you'll only need the Psycannon anyway. Searchlight are good if you've spare points, that's about it.
Terminators - special weapons goes on the Halberdier. Because when in CC, the sword carriers will take the heavier hits with their improved Inv save, but it's still only 50/50. If they pass, great. If they fail and are carrying the special, that's baaaaad with a captial BAD.
Everything else is fairly straight forward. Heavy Psilencer is gank though. Take it off and post it back to GW, they're pointless for all-comers lists.
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