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    Models to 'Counts As' for Hellbrutes

    So I'm working on a Thousand Sons list. I like Dreadnoughts in loyalists, and am kinda liking the new hellbrutes. However, I play my army very anti-demon/mutation... that was the purpose of the original Rubric, after all. So I need some models that could match up to the size/design of the new Hellbrute, but look a bit more... arcane. And not demon'y.

    Can anyone suggest anything? Besides the obvious of just using loyalist dreadnoughts, that is.

    My first thought involved Warmachine 'jacks... Not sure which size would match up best.

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    Well Loyalist Dreadnoughts would satisfy your needs perfectly. Other options include the Forgeworld Chaos Dreadnoughts.

    If the above post comes off with a negative tone, you're reading it wrong.
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    How about a Thousand Sons dreadnought? - http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhamme...EADNOUGHT.html

    'Helbrute' is just the new name for 'Chaos Dreadnought', after all.

    If you absolutely must have something a bit different, you could always use a Decimator - http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhamme...ON_ENGINE.html - but the Thousand Sons dread is perfectly fine.

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    Decimators are huge; they're actually larger than a Contemptor Dreadnought, and for good reason with their stats. However as I'm trying to stay away from Demon & mutation-style models, the Decimator doesn't work. I actually bought and converted a Dreadknight to act as a Decimator if I ever run one. When it's painted I need to take some pictures. I basically added some extra armoring to a Dreadknight and replaced both hands with large doubled barrelled guns to represent butcher cannons.

    The Thousand Sons dreadnought from FW is probably one of the better looking units, and to be honest, I forgot that FW had one specifically (which is strange, I remembered they had other chapters). I'm not really a huge fan of the older head-sticking-out design of those sarcophagi, however. Looking at the pics, it's growign on me. Maybe if I can find some of my old Dreadnought arms laying around so I'm not wasting a ton of cash...


    The biggest problem is cost. Any dreadnought is running me something like $50 USD, and I'm trying to keep costs down. Warmachine 'jacks are around $30-40, and that can add up... if I can find one that looks decent and handle some of the weapons I want. Plasma Cannons seem a good bet, but I know I never had spares of those, lascannons I may have alot of.

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    i also thought about converting a warmachine jack one time and i found this one :

    http://privateerpress.com/warmachine...acks/decimator

    its at a good size and the weapon arm could be a plasma or a lascannon or even an aoutocannon with an extra barrel
    think thats a good way to add some unique style to your army

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    I really would recomend the forgeworld dreadnought. It's a 100% cooler model than the warmachine stuff, and you can get them legion specific and choose whatever weapons you want.

    I was in love with the forgeworld dreads and was on the verge of buying an Alpha Legion one, I held off because I wasn't sure what was happening with all of the HellBrute non-sense. But now I think I want to get one again.

    They'll always be dreadnoughts to me <333333

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    Originally Posted by 6^ View Post
    I really would recomend the forgeworld dreadnought. It's a 100% cooler model than the warmachine stuff, and you can get them legion specific and choose whatever weapons you want.

    I was in love with the forgeworld dreads and was on the verge of buying an Alpha Legion one, I held off because I wasn't sure what was happening with all of the HellBrute non-sense. But now I think I want to get one again.

    They'll always be dreadnoughts to me <333333
    wouldnt say they are cooler if convert the others right but FW is awesome too

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    Originally Posted by MortrexO View Post
    wouldnt say they are cooler if convert the others right but FW is awesome too
    In my opinion, excuse me.

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    As I said, while I don't mind the dreadnoughts, I've never really been a fan of the head peeking out. The sarcophagus seemed so much cooler in that design where it was just a front chestplate. Now, the Thousand Son FW dread does look nice... BUT it has that head poking out that I can't stand. That really is a turn off for me.

    I did manage to find a ton of Missile Launchers, Heavy Bolters, TL Lascannons, and Assault Cannons from the old dread kit (and FW bolters). I've considered using those with old Black Reach Dreads to keep costs down.

    That is another reason against FW.... too expensive. A warjack is much cheaper than a dreadnought.

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    Why not just convert a loyalist Dreadnought?

    If the above post comes off with a negative tone, you're reading it wrong.
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    Why not just cover up the head poking out?

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    Currently I'm going with the idea of converting a few old Black Reach Dreadnoughts, as the cheapest option. Swap out the Melta for some Lascannons I already have, and then just 'bit' them up a bit to make t hem look more arcane-styled. Eventually I'd like to use something better, but this way I can field all 3 slots for perhaps $65.

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    I know I'm a little late to reply, but I've had the same thought. I've thought about purchasing a Space Marine dreadnought. Use an exactoknife to remove the front and convert a cultist to drive it. Use green stuff to connect him to the dread. Then for the arms, you can use bits from the Maulerfiend kit. Buy some bitz for the bike/tank kits to jazz it up a bit, and you've got a Hellbrute.

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    a side project of mine, if you might want some ideas for converting the AoBR dread (they are actually quite easy to convert, a cut at the torso bits, and the leg joints is really all you need to open the kit up a lot)



    (the arms are from a defiler, and they weren't really working out, so working on swapping the included multimelta and DCCW with a reaper AC and power scourge. pics are a bit old, but not much aside from riveting has been done)

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