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    Blackadder's Attempt To Build a Lucius Patten Imperator Titan 'Invictus'

    Lucius Patten Imperator Titan 'Invictus'

    So with the blurb ten months ago about my proposal to begin an Imperator Titan I kinda fell flat on my face.

    First, finishing up the Thunderhawk monopolized a good deal of my time and learning how to best incorporate lighting in said Thunderhawk and my Warlord engaged yet more time. Then the Presidential election captured my attention almost to the exclusion of all things else. Finally I have returned to normalcy with what I consider a fabulous idea to make a hip and lower torso mount commensurate with an automaton of this magnitude.

    So we shall begin with the 'pelvis' which I found ready made on my local Lowes Building center where I purchased about six bucks worth of PVC pipe fittings A compression fitting Tee, a threaded coupling for the connection to the upper torso and two more for the hips connections.

    http://i.imgur.com/u2Jmn7x.jpg


    Naturally all this is quite utilitarian and looks exactly what it is, some pipe fittings and there are many titans that follow this procedure and leave the fittings as is. I intend to flesh out the assembly in styrene so as to hide all the piping that will only serve as an armature or skeleton for the model.

    In the image below you will get an idea of how much more robust this construct will be compared to the pelvis and hips of my Warlord.

    http://i.imgur.com/ZnV8V8v.jpg


    Where as Luteus Vexant has hips trunnions about an inch in diameter 'Invictus' shall have 1.5 inch axles.

    The beauty of this ready made construction technique is I shall be able pivot the waist and separate the model easily and hopefully allow the legs to be posed in a walking position as well as the spraddle-legged pose.

    http://i.imgur.com/iHv6TFE.jpg


    http://i.imgur.com/4KsMObK.jpg


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    I look forward to seeing this monstrosity completed, I've always had a soft spot in my heart for giant killer robots.

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    Geez completed and I've just barely started the basic component; I admire your optimism.

    Okay so I had some 3/8 inch box beams (Plastruct) laying about so I used them as spacers to thicken the construction and give it strength to boot. Then if I need to modify it later it will be easier to sand down instead of a solid block.

    http://i.imgur.com/a8Qgxh0.jpg



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    http://i.imgur.com/RwtL7aC.jpg


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    This all seems pretty boring and I hope to get into the fancy stuff soon. Right now giving this heavy model (My warlord upper body weighs seven pounds) a strong basic structure is paramount.

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    If you can pull this off then massive props to you.

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    I had the remnants of mine until I moved across the country...then I allowed them to be destroyed...Those were some big feets.

    best of luck to you

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    Thanks for the nreplies,

    Basic Pelvis Block Complete:

    With thsi post the basic pelvis is complete. All that is left is applying the detail. I may bevel the corners and edges to add more pizzazz as I did on the Thunderhawk but all that is cosmetic.

    http://i.imgur.com/zJQSzyE.jpg


    The Epic Imperator is very plain and you can let your imangination run wild with the amount of detail a 3 foot tall model requires. I have a good stock of City of Dead panels left over from my Warlord and I have a Fortress of Redemption to decorate the greaves if needs be.

    http://i.imgur.com/2oMX14M.jpg


    I used 0.040 thousandths styrene to sheath the pelvis and sanded the edges smooth; there's not really much to say about the step except to take great pains to make your angles square and true. Good enough is never "Good Enough"; that's my motto.

    http://i.imgur.com/PUPtHYJ.jpg


    A few extra pains taken now will save you a lot of grief later.

    http://i.imgur.com/Jp3YsLu.jpg


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    Getting the right angle:

    I've wracked my brains trying to come up with a way to manufacture legs that were angled slightly akimbo (about 10%) so my Warmonger can be posed in the classic manner. Most of the pipe fitting models I have seen have the legs parallel to each other and it looks boxy and strange to the artistic eye. Never mind that parallel legs or even legs canted in to a pigeon toed stance are more amenable to a proper walking gate. For a static stance nothing compares to the rock solid look of a spraddled posture.

    This realized, getting the proper fittings is out. You have three choices; 90°, 45°, and 22.5° and that's it, so to get the requisite 10° I'll have to manufacture them.

    Here's my solution:

    I bought two caps and drilled and taped two 1/4 20 NC threads into the caps and short threaded coupling. I purposely made two different angles, one 10° and one about 12°, as once the legs are built I can chose which angle I like better or maybe keep both for a bit of variation. I screwed in two 6 inch threaded rods that will serve as the thigh shafts, thin and strong and able to support the ten pounds or more of the upper body when finished.

    http://i.imgur.com/tPwX9xN.jpg


    Next I slipped two styrene tubes over the threaded rods that will serve as the glue base for all the thigh shaft construction and ultimately the detail of the upper legs.

    http://i.imgur.com/TUygS3w.jpg


    Your pardon for the hiatus but I took a last minute vacation for the past few weeks to clear my head and tour Florida.

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    Thanks for the reply,

    Two Steps Back:

    Found these dynomite compression couplings that are just made for this construct so scrap the rods and the sleeve for the nonce and work on cropping the length of the assembly.

    http://i.imgur.com/rDXJWCH.jpg


    By cutting off the octagons I managed to crop the length by about 30 MM which makes the extreme width of the hips 12.5 inches (31.75 CM) compared to my Warlord's 10.5 inches (26.67 CM) which should be just right for a scale:180 to 200 ft (54 to 61 meter) tall Emperor Titan.

    http://i.imgur.com/bLFeR7p.jpg


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    First, this is cool, and one day I may use it as a guide to make my own.

    Second, I though Emperor-class Titans were 400ft tall?

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    Originally Posted by nonamewight View Post
    Second, I though Emperor-class Titans were 400ft tall?
    ~175-190'

    Dies Irae was only ~140 due to lack of cathedral

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    http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Emperor_Titan has Emperor-class Titans reaching up to 100 metres (or 325 ft) and Dies Irae was said to be 140 metres (or 455 ft). Of course, they also have them listed as small as 60 metres (or 195 f.)

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    depends on what source you want to go with honestly. Gav thorpe has said one thing, Dies Irae has been ~40 and ~140. Considering the shit show of poor writing that is black library, this could be a typo. I think at the end it comes down to an author going "Oh hey, round number 100m!" or whatever. It could also be just...forgetting to go between feet and meters...thinking of one and writing the other.

    Datasheet scaling has it at 39". That equates to 55-ish meters irl. I agree that this seems entirely too tiny

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    Wow; thanks for all the replies but since there are no real hard and set rules about how tall an Emperor Titan is and so as not to dwarf my Warlord too much I am going for 33 to 36 inches tall for my Emperor and that will be almost a foot taller than my Warlord which in turn is seven inches taller than Forgeworld's pygmy effort.

    Now If you thought the Warlord was inspiration wait til you get a load of this.

    Oh God I'm In Love:

    Look what I just found! Before I started this I had so-so enthusiasm for this project thinking it's worth a shot making a easy to build Emperor Titan that my readers might attempt along with me but that stops now!

    I am totally jazzed about this project since I found this head. Back when I began my Warlord finding Dave Smith's Epic rendering committed me to the project. That is what finding this image has done.

    http://i.imgur.com/Y2qZ5Cv.png


    Starting now I'm going to build this part full sized (as it prints out on Landscape 8.5 X 11 paper) and build the rest of the titan in proportion.

    The overall size is just about an inch bigger than my Warlord's head overall so it is in keeping with my projected height for my Emperor.

    This is going to be 'dynomite!' if I can accomplish it.

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    I believe in you.

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    Simple As Falling Off A Log:

    When I started this thread I said to myself, "I'm going to make this model as simply as I can just to see what can be done with off the shelf items readily available to the judicious builder.

    I planned this so anyone can make one of these along with me.

    http://i.imgur.com/57b5tEn.jpg


    Here we have about $25 bucks worth of plastic pipe fittings, and model styrene. A $3.50 bottle of conditioner (We just need the bottle and a bit of imagination (Supplied by your's truly ) and a fantastic head image to work off of, all you need is a cheap printer........

    So with these parts gathered there should be no problem making the head and hip components.

    http://i.imgur.com/UM5Uizc.jpg


    The next part is a bit of a lark on my part; you're going to need an old beach chair. We've all seen them usually tossed in the rubbish with a broken hinge mechanism but usually two or three still functioning and all we need is two.

    http://i.imgur.com/PiTcJro.jpg


    These will form working knee joints, I hope, with a bit of ingenuity.

    http://i.imgur.com/f5Z1vAb.jpg


    Of course it's not necessary to have flexing knees but since I have the chair I might as well go for the gusto.

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    Neck:

    The coupling being PVC is not compatible with styrene so I applied a veneer of 0.015 sheet styrene so parts and detail can be added.

    http://i.imgur.com/ijcMkcJ.jpg


    I then roughed in the cutout coordinates for the head to neck connection.

    http://i.imgur.com/fI28OOL.jpg


    The large round cylinder just below the helmet where the ears would be I am assuming is the neck/skull joint to allow the head to tilt down. Likewise the flexible conduits on either side of the chin.

    Why not call these by their anatomical names. The so-called "Command Bridge is very skull-like.

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    Jaw Cut Out:

    Using my vibrating saw it was a simple matter cutting out the jaw recess in the coupling.

    http://i.imgur.com/V33rgGl.jpg


    The neck is now ready for shaping and detailing.

    http://i.imgur.com/KoJVjmG.jpg


    Incidentally my Chicago Electric vibrating saw is a must have tool for hobbying;

    http://www.harborfreight.com/variabl...ool-62867.html

    This cut would be really difficult with virtually any other device other than a hand tool and my $25 dollar saw was a tremendous time saver. It took about five minutes to make this cut including the blade swap.

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    I've one request: Could you put up a list of all the material and tools you are using for this project?

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    Originally Posted by nonamewight View Post
    I've one request: Could you put up a list of all the material and tools you are using for this project?
    Sure but where's the fun in that?

    Ha! just kidding, I'll make a list.

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    Just a few more preliminaries before we begin the basic construction. I want to get this out of the way so I can refer queries to the beginning of the thread on basic construction techniques, not that I think I have all the answers but I do know what works for me and that I am willing to share so bear with me the construction is coming forthwith............

    Tools of the Trade:

    There has been a few questions regarding the amount of tools necessary to build my projects. I do have a lot of special tools that I need for work. I have been a mechanic all my adult life but to work on styrene models the material being so soft and malleable I find the most basic hand tools are sufficient to perform any of the work you see here.

    Aside from the tools pictured here I would add an X-acto razor saw and the small diameter X-acto knife with a goodly supply of the # 11 blades.

    When I get into the fine detail work I will break out my Jeweler's files as well but aside from that this is all I have used so far on the Thunderhawk.



    You can see that:

    A good quality combination square is essential.

    A good quality utility knife with a supply of sharp blades.

    A medium sized X-acto knife handle with #18 X-acto chisel blade. chisel.

    A wooden cutting board is essential as opposed to one of those plastic self healing cutting mats. That's just my preference but I'm a creature of habit.

    A 8" sized single cut file.

    Home made sanding blocks with coarse and 80 grit sandpaper adhered with double back tape

    A 6" scale graded in 1/64th inch and millimeters.

    A calculator

    Sharp Pencils

    I use 'Plastruct Bondene' Plastic Solvent Cement but as the brush is so clunky and thick and the bottle so easy to tip over I refill the Tamiya thin plastic cement bottle; it has a much more stable bottle and a very fine tipped brush. When the fluid level in the bottle gets too low I drop in a few glass marbles to raise the level.

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