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  1. #201
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    Really coming along here!

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    She's Got Legs

    Well she's gonna have legs but we have to start with a single step (Groan!)

    First the basics.... The Greaves



    I'm using a 3D image provided by joazzz2 on Deviant art for my inspiration

    One of the problems with the representation of many Imperial Titans I notice, especially those that CoD for detailing bitz, is the panels are not truncated. This causes a boxy square look that is æsthetically unpleasing.

    https://i.imgur.com/ogerbBt.jpg


    So to begin with we are going to sneak up on the correct angle incrementally.....

    https://i.imgur.com/DcZU4mk.jpg



    https://i.imgur.com/B3LNxN5.jpg


    I'm only going to do one this time in case this doesn't work out.

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    You've gotta get these grids

    If you're gonna build an Imperator.

    These are a godsend for this type of construction.

    https://i.imgur.com/JoaSwcP.jpg


    Tipping the greave to match the 3D image brings home what this skeletal structure will eventually become.

    https://i.imgur.com/dQWAmgw.jpg


    I just hope they are not too big or too small

    the Goldilocks conundrum.........

    https://i.imgur.com/yQQJiUN.jpg


    Image taken earlier today leaves me a bit up in the air regarding proper sizing. Then I thought too small. but they've become so massive.

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    We might be talking over a meter and a third tall when finished.

    I've already played around with the greaves quite a bit combining the best features and adding modifications I deemed necessary (But nothing is etched in stone I hasten to add.)

    https://i.imgur.com/CblbgPo.jpg


    First I do not hold with the Space Marines rattling around in the greaves trying to stand on a shifting floor with every step the Titan takes plus when the model is static say on a shelf I plan to display him in the classic Emperor pose with legs slightly spread, greaves at an angle to the ground/shelf for maximum stability.

    https://i.imgur.com/e1ZsFfj.jpg


    A pose I'm sure a working Emperor would take when firing at an enemy. When you speak of Infantry I presume you mean Space Marines.... I'm not up on Titan lore but I was under the impression that they transported armoured combatants (?)

    https://i.imgur.com/VD6NAQg.jpg


    I plan to have my Marines held in place with harnesses as in the 'Drop Pod' model which would be the only way they could survive the walking jostling.



    Once the Marines prepare to disembark the Titan can assume a stance that is more conducive to discharging the personnel.

    I've always felt the main body of the Emperor titan held all the business end of the of the vehicle; Command deck, Engineering, Reactors, Machinery.

    The top hamper being reserved the worship of the Machine God Omnissiah or Deus Mechanicus the supernatural entity worshipped by the Tech-priests and other servants of the Adeptus Mechanicus as the embodiment and bestower of all knowledge and technology in the universe.

    Other than the manufacture of the deck I've done little in planning the superstructure which will be a project almost as big as what has already been done. I do have a Skitarii crew and tech priests and Belisarius Cawl to inhabit the deck once completed but all that is far off even in the planning stage.

    Right now I have the model sitting on the floor of my den. Even without legs it's two feet tall and I'm wondering what to do with it when it's done. We might be talking over a meter and a third tall when finished.

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    Mistakes Were Maid

    Fortunately the materials are relatively inexpensive and much of the material was salvageable.

    https://i.imgur.com/omRVt7P.jpg


    My perception of the bulk of the greaves was seriously flawed and until I started on the second level structure was this apparent. The corner spires were too bulky and would have necessitated cutting down the central second level structure making the flying buttresses too small as well and perhaps unworkable. The biggest flaw was my persistent insistence on using the Sanctum Imperialis beautiful double doors as a focal point of the greaves This may or may not be workable......

    https://i.imgur.com/OIYJP0m.jpg


    Anyway I'm back on track with a minimum of hand-wringing and downtime. I frequently make errors taking the time to correct them is always a priority with me because good enough is Never Good Enough.

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    The Beat Goes On:

    Before I get too far ahead I should keep you all apprised of recent developments.

    By the slow method of how I build some thoughts enter my mind as to how to make this Titan more interesting.

    https://i.imgur.com/0kRs1V0.jpg


    It came to me that the front of the greaves is too bland and to add more interest I decided to recess the assault doors.

    https://i.imgur.com/hbCx0xB.jpg


    I also began work on the top coppola, the area immediately below the knee, These greave may prove to be an interesting focal point of this titan.

    https://i.imgur.com/O5JZJCr.jpg


    While working I happened to glance a the seeming pile of rubble in the corner of my workshop. A sad array of unfinished Emperor Titan parts that bear little resemblance to what may prove to be my best effort to date.........

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    Resting On One's Laurels:

    Before I get too smug and self-satisfied I just repaired the interior of my Warlord. and I was surprised at the lengths my OCD drove me three or so years ago. As I contemplate doing an interior for my Emperor Titan I thought I'd refresh myself on my previous construction.

    Over the years the glue had lost it's grip on the aluminum impregnated wall coatings I used for much of this model inside and out and pieces were rattling around inside. I found some two decks down in the Engineering bay.

    Anyway once all put together I fired up the interior lighting (surprisingly it all functioned) and took these images so I don't have to disassemble it again until when and if I decide to upgrade the paint.

    So here's five pictures of the Command deck and Tech Priest balcony replete with Altar to the Machine God, Omnissiah.

    https://i.imgur.com/5UBXtI5.jpg


    Starting with the egress to the Command deck through the entry port.

    https://i.imgur.com/HPVuC9K.jpg


    I don't know if I've posted these or not other than in the construction phase. Most certainly not on Facebook or any of the new forums I frequent.

    https://i.imgur.com/hoygzJW.jpg


    The upper left Gallery and a view of the Altar

    https://i.imgur.com/oUGghoP.jpg


    and the right Gallery.......

    https://i.imgur.com/A8Oame4.jpg


    I've gotta straighten that railing.............

    Never mind the railing Blackadder; What about that bloody great hole in the deck?

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    Time For A Proportion Check:

    One of the hazards of working without a plan is you lead yourself down a primrose path only to find the portion you are working on does not fit with the rest of the project.

    I have to estimate the height of the finished Emperor Titan and then figure out how tall each of the components need to be to give me a proper proportion.

    I'm figuring the completed Emperor will now be a meter and a quarter tall since the lower legs fill the space between the feet and the hip. That leaves virtually no room for a thigh.

    https://i.imgur.com/KcGi4jT.jpg


    As it stands right now without the superstructure it is 33 inches (0.8382 meter) tall. and it still needs about 6 inches of thigh length minimum even if I put the knee joint directly above the topmost section of the greave.

    https://i.imgur.com/qhOstA3.jpg


    Looks like a lot of people will be getting their wish that I should make it taller. Right now I'm figuring 240 scale feet (73.152 Scale Meters). 80 feet taller than the Warlord.

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    33 Inches Tall:

    RIght now it's standing about 33 Inches Tall without feet or superstructure.

    https://i.imgur.com/x9bKa1w.jpg


    The left leg is covered with the basic skin and the proportions look about right. I'm toying with the idea of having the egress on the inner side of the greaves where it would make more sense rather than the front plus it would lend itself better to have the troops exit the greaves under the full protection of the Titan guards until they are formed up as a full company. Plus the inner toes would incorporate the descending stairs to the ground leaving the front toes uncluttered with the steps.

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    Where's Waldo:

    So after this weekend's work I have little to show for it but if you follow this thread you may be able to pick out what has been done.

    No fair cheating and referencing the previous text.


    https://i.imgur.com/2rJeRD4.jpg


    I'm still wrestling with the egress of the troops from the greaves


    https://i.imgur.com/RR657Ku.jpg


    Logic would dictate they exit the rear. I've compromised and allowed for a inner thigh exit. to have them exit to the front piecemeal may appeal to the 40K genera but not to common sense. After all we're not exiting a one shot beach landing craft.

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    Quite a Feet

    As I estimate right now this is about the size of the foot print for this baby.

    https://i.imgur.com/pfI5l2y.jpg


    Whereas the Warlord had baneblade size feet. This Emperor will have half again more

    https://i.imgur.com/CMafvLo.jpg


    With the greave in place it seems I can trim the toes a tad but no hurry as I am now in the process of designing ankles.

    https://i.imgur.com/47tgGJL.jpg


    Yeah, you read me right, ankles.

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    Niiiice. Are you going to have Anti-personnel turrets on the ankles or no? I've seen some models of Imperators have them, and forget whether the Lucius brand is one.

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    I Cannot Help Myself:

    It seems I am again in the situation where I cannot compromise this construction by taking short cuts.

    Originally this thread was a tutorial on how to make a quick and gratifying Emperor Titan out of recycled plastic debris and GW bitz plus some plasticard. I expected to bring the thing in for about a hundred bucks American.

    https://i.imgur.com/JC06rvC.jpg


    Starting with the waffle lenses and a few items purchased on Amazon The project has now run into about twice as much which still isn't bad but far beyond what I hoped for.

    In the series of images presented here is My solution to a problem that has vexed me since beginning; how am I to reconcile the leg joints? So here's my solution......

    https://i.imgur.com/ClaHuT8.jpg


    A ball joint ankle. In the two images above I made a cup recess for a two inch wood drawer pull ( A design I made for my scratch built Warhound years ago) so who's to say, "You have to keep teaching an old dog the same old tricks."

    https://i.imgur.com/oBFCt4n.jpg


    By carefully cutting out and stacking the waffle pieces and reinforcing them periodically I managed to build a close tolerance socket fit for the drawer pull knob. This will allow the foot to pivot front to back and side to side and any combination in between

    https://i.imgur.com/mQNCTqT.jpg


    The upper part of the assembly captures the ball and with luck provide sufficient friction to keep the ball in position by clamping it in place. Otherwise I'll have to reinforce the cup with A4 epoxy resin as I did on the Warhound.

    https://i.imgur.com/DeJ7lf1.jpg


    Next, the shank.

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    Anybody Know What This Is:

    Gold is where you find it but from the moment I saw a couple of these in my neighbor's recycling I knew I would some day have a use for them. All along I was thinking some FW/GW futuristic Plasma weapon for a big Titan.

    https://i.imgur.com/El7xQNq.jpg


    But the unique and unusual design works well with my plans to build a troop transport greave interior right down to recesses for the huge actuators that stabilize the foot and the levels to hang the troopers shoulder harnesses when their being transported.

    https://i.imgur.com/9nFLn7k.jpg


    So now the ball and socket may make more sense especially with the sleeve removed..........

    https://i.imgur.com/uHF50bg.jpg


    https://i.imgur.com/8oXCttD.jpg


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    Eight Set Of Toes:

    Boring!

    Producing eight identical toe sets was tedious in the extreme but at any rate they are done except for the detail of course.

    https://i.imgur.com/4sHkM6R.jpg


    I modified the side toes to be shorter than the front and rear toes for what I consider aesthetic purposes and I made the ramp a bit shallower than on the image as well again because I think it looks better.

    https://i.imgur.com/GBKUHjH.jpg


    Another of the same image but I think it portrays the greave better than the one above so hell, I posted them both.

    https://i.imgur.com/w7f4rYp.jpg


    And Damn; I forgot the obligatory Space Marine for scale.

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    The Bottom of the foot pads:

    The Movie Helsreach shows the bottom of the foot pads as a rather bland tread pattern.

    https://i.imgur.com/NEfzlzl.jpg


    So be it. I like it for it's simplicity.

    https://i.imgur.com/FYk80zj.jpg


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    I've been requested to provide Scale for the Emperor Titan. Unfortunately the legs are not attached to the pelvis, in point of fact the upper leg segment has yet to be designed. But one lower leg is avail so for reference we can compare it to a standard Space Marine Trooper and to a Warlord Titan that I just happen to have.....

    https://i.imgur.com/V4kBmmr.jpg[


    One of these day I'm going to have to break out my green screen.

    This next shot is from ground level

    https://i.imgur.com/BvHyUA4.jpg


    https://i.imgur.com/V4kBmmr.jpg


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    Legs Akimbo:

    It's time to put my theories to the test. Yesterday began designing what I hope will be a movable leg system that will use friction locks to maintain the pose.

    The PVC pipe couplings have "O" ring compression gaskets that will lock the upper thigh in place yet allow me to change the position in seconds.

    https://i.imgur.com/xZLeTkM.jpg


    The Lower Thigh to knee joint will be trickier and require a screw driver compression joint the same as on my Warlord.

    https://i.imgur.com/3yoV86m.jpg


    The biggest problem and one I just solved today in a fit of serendipity is how to make the legs sprawl out into the classic Titan pose.

    https://i.imgur.com/iQn5Ci2.jpg


    That will require a homemade gimbal assembly that I may have worked out in theory. It remains to be seen if the material is up to it.

    Looking at these images I can just see my loyal readers cringing...........

    I'm putting a lot of hope on flimsy styrene components.

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    Curing a rainy day:

    It's a far cry from this.....

    https://i.imgur.com/3yoV86m.jpg


    to this.....

    https://i.imgur.com/VUSn5xa.jpg



    and even further to this.

    https://i.imgur.com/lij9Cbi.jpg


    https://i.imgur.com/bpd8MlQ.jpg


    It is my hope to have fully articulated legs on this beastie although I will not go to the effort I went to with my Warlord giving the legs a "Toe in" and "Toe Out" capability. That was much too much and although workable I have never employed that feature when posing my Warlord.

    https://i.imgur.com/TxcnBfk.jpg


    Finally I can get a glimpse of what I have been working toward for these past few weeks; with the hip connect scaled to size, and the upper leg finally attached at the knee. I can now make some inroads towards an actual knee structure. I am now thinking of cutting the knee joint into the upper tier of the greave. which I believe will look much better.

    Onward and Upward as they say...............

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